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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Group

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

In the early stages of discussions, when we were putting the group together, a couple of areas were highlighted that were causing some issues. One was about Government policy, both north and south of the border, and the lack of clarification that would allow the industry to develop. There were also concerns about regulatory constraints, because the regulations are not moving as fast as the space industry is. That is a UK issue that we would hope to highlight and explore with the APPG in Westminster.

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We need a joined-up approach on this, because a lot of the companies that are signing up are operating north and south of the border. Things will be a little bit complicated until we get them bedded in, but, if we can make it work, the benefits to Scotland will be significant.

As you know, cross-party groups have no actual power, but they have the power of ensuring that views are heard and publicised and that people understand what the issues are. Government ministers are generous with their time when it comes to attending CPGs, which can help them to understand the issues.

There are a lot of issues around CPGs that deal with various competing bodies—some of the bodies that we are talking about are competitors, and I suspect that Airbus and Lockheed Martin are not commercially joined at the hip. However, if those issues are, indeed, important, they can be worked out by the participants who are pushing for the CPG—and they are pushing for it, because they see a value in it. There are many common issues—around planning, regulation and policy—and we can help to focus minds and bring those issues together. The work that is done will be much more powerful if it can be done in tandem in Scotland and at Westminster.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Group

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

This cross-party group has already attracted a huge amount of attention and interest. MSPs become engaged in things for different reasons. It is partly about their own interests and partly about the interests of their constituents and so on. As far as the space CPG is concerned, the level of interest is probably the highest that I have seen in a long time. You talk about perhaps having time only to drop in on discussions that relate to your constituency. That is absolutely fine; indeed, it would be encouraged.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Group

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

Yes, I do. The industry members are taking on the secretarial and administration work. They are providing all the support, so the impact on my office will be relatively low. There will have to be input from the convener and, I hope, the active MSPs, but I am absolutely certain that I have the time. I would not have gone into this if I did not believe that I had the time to commit to the group. Frankly, given the nature of what we are looking at, it is a priority for Scotland and for the rest of the UK. It would be a serious deficiency—I almost said “space”—in the range of CPGs that we provide if this vital area was not covered.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

What I am not hearing from you is that the estimated figures that are produced annually can be compared with an actual figure that, somehow, is thrown out, even if it is historical.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

It would be interesting to see the estimates over several years to see whether they have swung back and forth or been fairly constant.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

I will come to Social Security Scotland in a second.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

Good morning, Auditor General. I am looking at fraud, which we have discussed before, specifically on the social security side. The benefit expenditure administered by the Department for Work and Pensions is £3.3 billion. According to the papers, you estimate that overpayments in Scotland could amount to £67.5 million. There are two questions on that. First, how do you calculate that out of thin air? Secondly, is that a normal level? Is that what would be expected?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

I have just one last question on this particular—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

Okay. It relates to what I spoke about before. Is Social Security Scotland taking enough of the measures that it should take to assess levels of fraud and error in relation to the benefits that it directly administers?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Colin Beattie

In the early years, which is not that long ago, when Social Security Scotland was put in place, there was a relatively relaxed regime in respect of fraud. That was gradually tightened up as the volume and complexity of its work increased. Has the Scottish Government given you enough assurance around the assessment of fraud in this year’s accounts?