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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 24 September 2026
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Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Intergovernmental Relations)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

I am aware that other members have questions, but we might need to save them for a future evidence session, as we have another cabinet secretary coming in a few minutes’ time.

For the time being, I thank Chris Mackie and the Deputy First Minister for their attendance. We will no doubt have opportunities to follow up on the range of issues that we have discussed.

I suspend the meeting for a few minutes for a comfort break and a changeover of witnesses.

10:27

Meeting suspended.

10:32

On resuming—

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

The reason why I picked out that phrase is that it opens up the possibility that you have in mind a more fundamental restructuring of the types of organisations that exist to manage cultural assets. You will be very well aware that that was a serious concern for our predecessor committee.

In your opening remarks, you talked about seeking the recovery of Historic Environment Scotland. That has been the subject of ongoing discussion. The previous cabinet secretary with responsibility for culture tried to reassure us that a plan was in place, that people were in place and that that recovery was under way and would be well managed.

Now, the organisation has gone back into another period of significant uncertainty, with interim postholders in place and, I am sure, a great deal of anxiety for the people who work for it. At the moment, I am unclear about whether the Government has a clear sense of whether the organisation will recover in its current form or whether other options are on the table for how those functions will be carried out.

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

I have a quick follow-up and then Keith Brown has a question. I am keen to pin down and fully understand what you have said about the timing of a culture and arts bill. The SNP’s manifesto uses the phrase,

“consult to develop a Culture and Arts Bill”,

and talks about that happening

“By the end of the next parliament”—

that is, this session of Parliament. Some people might have read that and thought that it means the development of a bill during this session, rather than only consultation. Is the Government open to having a bill pass in this session, if consensus emerges in the sector about what is needed in it?

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

I think that we have one outstanding question from Senga Beresford. Was it on measuring outcomes from spend?

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

Maybe it was captured earlier.

In that case, I have one final question, although I know that we have overrun by a minute or two. You will be aware of the significant concern in Glasgow about the future of the former Centre for Contemporary Arts building at 350 Sauchiehall Street. I am conscious that the decision on that is not signed off by the cabinet secretary and that it sits with Creative Scotland’s board. However, the public finance manual for the Scottish Government sets out that, even when an asset is deemed surplus and is being disposed of for that reason, consideration should be given to ensuring public benefit in the transfer, or to transferring it within the Scottish public sector.

Given that everyone accepts that the premises are not actually surplus to requirements and that the issue is simply that Creative Scotland does not want to be the landlord any more, do you and the Scottish Government understand why there is such a strong public expectation that the asset should remain in the public sector rather than be privatised?

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Intergovernmental Relations)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

There is an open question about whether any structures are possible that lock in good practice.

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Intergovernmental Relations)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

Thank you for your patience, Jenny Young.

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

Senga Beresford has a question about public service reform that might lead on from the previous one, and then we will move to other themes.

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

We will come on to issues related to the screen sector in a few minutes, but I want to bring in David Green, first of all, and then go back to Jenny Young on the NPCs.

Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Priorities (Culture)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Patrick Harvie

I am sure that there will be lots of take-up for that offer.