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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 December 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I am happy with that. Are colleagues content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I think that the evidence that we received talked about an expectation that the Scottish Government would conduct such a review. As much as anything, we need to establish that such a review is in prospect.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That will give us further information, and we will consider the petition again in due course. Thank you, Mr Marra, for joining us for your first appearance at the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

We are agreed. We can all see the substance of the issue at hand, but I am struck by the Scottish Government’s suggestion that local authorities look at innovative ways to reduce allotment waiting lists. I am struggling to think of what an innovative way of dealing with an allotment waiting list would be but, notwithstanding my puzzlement with that concept, I am afraid that I am reluctantly of the same view.

The very clear advice from the Scottish Government is that the matter is for local authorities to deal with and, as SPICe points out, the petition seeks to give an entitlement to several hundreds of thousands of people, which is impractical.

I think that we are agreed that although we understand the substance of the issue, we will close the petition under rule 15.7 of standing orders. Is that the view of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

From what you have both said, it sounds as though there was a driving necessity to bring about a change in the arrangements that were in place. Every bit as much as clinicians and others thought that it was the right way forward, it sounds as though the previous arrangements were potentially dangerously unstable in terms of being able to provide a service.

On that basis, I am interested to know whether, to your knowledge, in the interim since 2016, the practice that you have evolved has been rolled out to other parts of the United Kingdom outside Scotland. In so far as you were able to establish a service, will you tell us what the main challenges were in trying to bring about what you have achieved, as a general introduction to the questions that will then follow? I do not know who will volunteer to speak.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That is very helpful. Thank you.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I want to go back over some of that territory. You have spoken about the fact that it is felt that it is a “non-starter” to consider retraining pathologists and that the desire for that does not exist among that community. You have alluded to the shortage of radiologists. To be perfectly candid, it is not a public secret that Scotland is acutely short of radiologists. For example, the 62-day cancer standard is not being met by any of Scotland’s health boards. The waiting time for all the key diagnostic tests, including radiology, is not being met anywhere in Scotland. The statistics from December 2022 show that just 45.8 per cent of patients waited less than six weeks for their diagnostic test.

This is not necessarily a question that you can answer, but I wonder whether similar pressures were advanced in the arguments that took place when your service was set up. The Government might say in response to the petition, or to any initiative that we might subsequently seek to promote, that faced with an acute shortage of radiologists, its first priority should be the living and that any such proposal would divert and potentially further undermine our ability to satisfy or meet currents needs, or even to close the gap, as regards current provision. Was a similar sentiment advanced when you set up your service?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

We do, in fact. I was getting ahead of myself by saying that I would bring in my colleague Alexander Stewart, because my colleague Fergus Ewing, who spoke a moment ago, has some questions directly on the finance side.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That is very helpful. Thank you very much. I bring in my colleague Alexander Stewart, who will ask some questions about tissue samples.