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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to this meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. If you are joining us this morning, it is a great pleasure to have you with us.

Our first agenda item is a declaration of interests following the resignation from the committee of Carol Mochan. I am sorry to say that Carol was with us for only a short time, but we very much appreciated her contribution and her valuable insights to the work of the committee during her time with us. I have pleasure in welcoming to the committee, in her place, Foysol Choudhury MSP. The first item of business this morning is to invite Mr Choudhury to declare any relevant interests.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. So any interests that you have are as they are recorded in the register of members’ interests.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

PE1949, which was lodged by Alexander James Dickson, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review the rules regarding MSPs with a dual mandate and to legislate to bring the Scottish Parliament in line with the Senedd and Stormont by preventing MSPs from holding a dual mandate in time for the next Scottish Parliament elections.

We previously considered the petition on 9 November, when we agreed to write to the Welsh Parliament, the Northern Ireland Assembly and the Electoral Reform Society. We also noted the Scottish Government’s view that the matter is one for the Parliament to consider.

We have now received responses from our colleagues in other devolved institutions. Members will have noted that the United Kingdom Government introduced legislation to prevent a member of the Northern Ireland Assembly from simultaneously being a member of the UK House of Commons or of the lower house of the Irish Parliament. Similar legislation in Wales was introduced by the Senedd Commission, which is the equivalent of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body. It appears that, if the Scottish Government has no appetite to pursue the matter, we should consider what options are available to allow the Parliament to give the matter further consideration.

I always observe that ministers hold a dual mandate, in that they have a second responsibility as well as that of being an MSP.

Do colleagues have any suggestions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

For the record, I state that I am a member of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, even though, in this instance, the recommendation is to send the petition to a different committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Is that advice being given only to motorcyclists or to tourists in general?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I wonder whether, when we write to the Scottish Government, we could, in addition, ask on what basis it is satisfied that the regulation is being properly implemented or how it would evidence that that is the case.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Do we agree with that suggestion? Having investigated that speculatively, I understand that it could be later in the autumn before the opportunity arises, which I suppose would allow us to pursue any outcomes that might be forthcoming from the on-going investigations, so that we have all that information before us at the time of the debate. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I suggest that, just in case the current Deputy First Minister is not familiar with all the issues for whatever reason, we restate some of what we said in the letter to the previous Deputy First Minister and the response that we received at that time, to underpin why we now seek to meet the Deputy First Minister herself.

David, do you want to add to that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

PE1945, lodged by Elizabeth Otway, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to place a legal ban on the extraction of peat and on peat imports, exports and sales in order to protect peatlands in Scotland and worldwide.

The Scottish Government’s submission from last November highlights the fact that the revised draft national planning framework 4 prohibits new commercial peat extraction except in limited circumstances. Since that submission was received, NPF4 has been approved.

In its submission, the Scottish Government said that it had been working with the industry to understand “transitional issues” and that a consultation to remove peat from Scottish horticulture was expected to begin in December 2022 but that it would not be possible to implement a sales ban by 2023. The submission said that a

“delivery plan and timetable for phasing out horticultural peat”

would be developed after the consultation responses had been analysed and discussions with industry and environmental non-governmental organisations had taken place. The Scottish Government consultation was launched in February, in fact, and it closes shortly, on 12 May.

The Scottish Crofting Federation’s submission urges the Scottish Government to restrict any ban on peat to horticultural sales and imports and the commercial extraction of peat for burning, while protecting the traditional rights of crofters to extract peat on a small scale for personal use.

Do members have any questions or comments?

09:45  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Do other colleagues want to comment?