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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I have been here for 16 years so I get that bit. To which minister in the Government would the responsibility fall?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Our final petition is PE2018, which was lodged by Helen Plank on behalf of Scottish Swimming. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to help keep our swimming pools and leisure centres open by providing financial investment for pools. The petitioner notes the important role that swimming can play in supporting the physical and mental wellbeing of people of all ages and highlights that, pre-Covid, swimming was one of Scotland’s highest-participation sports.

As noted in the papers, a report in November 2022 by Community Leisure UK found that 95 per cent of Scotland’s leisure facilities are at risk of closure, with swimming pools facing an increased risk of closure, due to the cost of the energy that is required to operate such facilities; I believe that that has been the subject of recent parliamentary questions. Members might also be aware that increasing financial pressures have recently led to the closure of three public swimming pools in West Lothian, as well as Bucksburn swimming pool in Aberdeen.

In response to the petition, the Scottish Government states that it has repeatedly called on the UK Government to use all the powers at its disposal to tackle the cost of living crisis and to provide appropriate energy bill relief to leisure facilities. The Scottish Government response goes on to acknowledge the financial package that has been provided by the UK Government to support swimming pools in England, noting that, in deciding how to allocate the resulting consequentials, it will consider what support can be provided to the sport and leisure sector in Scotland. I think that that too has been raised in the chamber. The Scottish Government also states that it is working with sportscotland to examine the facilities estate in Scotland.

We have also received a submission from the petitioner, which highlights the estimated social value—some £55 million—that swimming contributes to society and notes the role that swimming pools play in helping to keep people active, particularly women, people with disabilities and older people.

Members will also note from our papers that we have received a submission from our colleague Tess White MSP, a former member of the committee. She is unable to join the meeting but wanted to express her support for the petition and to highlight concerns about the closure of Bucksburn swimming pool in her region.

Do members have any comments or suggestions for further action?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

If you are supplying us with further information to follow up on the point that you discussed with Mr Torrance, it would be helpful if we could have information on the scope of and timescale for the review that was identified.

Earlier, the Lord Advocate referred to changes in the law being the responsibility of parliamentarians and not the Crown Office, which is there to apply the law. However, the use of imaging does not require any change in the law at all. There is no provision in law that needs to be changed to achieve that. Alexander Stewart will pursue that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Are you content that we proceed at least to that stage, Mr Torrance?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

To which minister in the Government does the responsibility fall?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I do think that that ought to be a matter of public concern. Both Mr Choudhury and Mr Ewing want to come in. Is it to develop this point or to touch on a different point?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

We will go to Mr Choudhury and then to Mr Ewing.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Are brains always removed during a post mortem?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

In each case, it would be possible to demonstrate the engagement that took place with the relatives in relation to the request that they had made regarding the desirability of a post mortem.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much, Lord Advocate. That final remark was very helpful. If we have seemed a bit testy, it is not just because we are seeking to benefit from such an assurance; the committee is just a bit confused as to where best to pursue these points and colleagues will probably consider who else we might need to see to try to bring that position around. We look forward to receiving the additional written information that you have mentioned.

I invite Monica Lennon to say a few words, as someone who has actively engaged with the committee on the petition.