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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I am struck by a couple of points in that comment. The council-owned swimming pool in my Eastwood constituency is about to be replaced by a completely new community infrastructure development with a pool and theatre, whereas, in other areas, assets are just being axed without any replacement programme. We will come on to discuss that idea and what the consequences of that might be for the sportspeople of the future.

You touched on the fact that we have the highest rate of drownings in the UK—it is almost twice the UK average. Has that always been the case? Is there a deteriorating trend, or is that an emerging statistic? Would all those deaths have been avoided if people had known how to swim, or are we talking in some cases about people getting caught up in a force majeure that would have been impossible for them to survive? I suppose that, if they had known how to swim, they would have had an opportunity to survive. I am interested in understanding where that statistic sits and what might underpin it.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2025 of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. We have received apologies from Foysol Choudhury, who is unable to join us this morning. Our colleague Fergus Ewing joins us online from Inverness, and our colleague Maurice Golden is en route from another committee that has been meeting this morning. I thank everyone for their forbearance in allowing a slightly later start, to enable him to arrive here.

The first item on the agenda is a rather dry item: it is a decision for David Torrance, Fergus Ewing and me on whether to consider in private any evidence that we might hear this morning, under agenda items 4 and 5. Are we content to take items 4 and 5 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you for your comprehensive set of recommendations. I can see that the clerks have been scribbling furiously as they try to keep up with the various additional thoughts about how we might proceed.

Do members agree keep the petition open and proceed as suggested?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

That draws to a conclusion our consideration of the petition in this session of Parliament.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Duncan, do you want to say something?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

To whom does that percentage apply?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I will bring in David Torrance to take us forward, but I think that he would like to start by following up on the area that we have just been discussing.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Kirsty Doig, do you have anything to contribute at this point?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. That is an important and thoughtful note on which we will end this round-table discussion.

I now suspend the meeting to allow for a change in witnesses.

11:02 Meeting suspended.  

11:05 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Ewing. You always provide an appropriate metaphor—in this case, it was “floundering around”. You put a challenge to members of the panel, and I think that they are ready to respond to your question. I first ask John Lunn whether he agrees with your suggestion about making it a statutory duty to ensure that every child has the opportunity to learn to swim.