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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That was a very evenly put question. Alison Irvine, would you like to respond?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. Mr Ewing has another question and I would like to go back to a couple of things. This is a slightly more circular approach, because I want to go back to the more historical aspect.

We are grateful for all the material that you were able to supply, which was quite a high pile when it was all stacked up and took quite a bit of digesting. One aspect that I wrestled with slightly was that for a great deal of time there was a conviction that the project could be delivered by 2025, which was evident throughout all the written submissions and evidence that we got by way of our inquiries and the material that we asked for.

Somewhere around 2018 or 2019 there was a change and discussions seemed to emerge about different funding models for the project, which did not feature in any of the narrative that have I read on what was happening up to that point. What is not clear to me is where the direction that was given for consideration of alternative funding models came from. Did it come from ministers and civil servants down or did it come from Transport Scotland up?

When I read all that, I was unclear why that area of discussion opened up at that point and who was leading on it. Where did the direction that was given for that change come from?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Alison, I think that that might be for you.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That, I think, is an indication.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Okay—thank you very much. I am not sure I have fully understood or come to an appreciation of what happened at that point.

David Torrance has indicated that he wishes to come back in again.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

A9 Dualling Project

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That is noted for the record.

Thank you all very much for joining us this morning. I am really very appreciative of you working within the restrictions imposed across the country today, and for everything that you have contributed.

11:15 Meeting suspended.  

11:21 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

The point about individuals being able to participate in interview processes was well made. That is a comprehensive list of suggestions. Do colleagues have any additional suggestions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and take forward the action that the committee has agreed to take.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Our next continued petition is PE1876, which was lodged by Lucy Hunter Blackburn, Lisa Mackenzie and Kath Murray—despite my wonky eyesight, I might have seen some of them in the public gallery. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to require Police Scotland, the Crown Office and the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service to accurately record the sex of people who are charged with or convicted of rape or attempted rape.

We previously considered the petition on 6 December last year, when we took evidence from two of the petitioners: Dr Lucy Hunter Blackburn and Lisa Mackenzie. During the evidence session, we heard the petitioners’ concerns about a lack of ethical leadership from the Scottish Government and Police Scotland on the policy of recording crime statistics and about the possible impact on wider public policy decisions and the allocation of resources. We also explored the issue of public trust in statistics and whether there might be local variations in the way in which the police record data on rape and sexual offences. The committee felt that important issues were raised in the evidence session.

Do members have any comments or suggestions for action?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Absolutely. We should congratulate the petitioner again. When writing to the cabinet secretary, we might point out that, although Mr Isted is not an ageing individual, unlike me and other members of the committee, he is set to leave primary school eventually, so it would be nice if we were able to take forward, to some extent, the aims of his petition.

Do we agree to take that approach?

Members indicated agreement.