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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you.

Liz, I have a similar question for you about what you hope to see in the draft plan. At this stage, does your chamber of commerce have an idea of what needs to be included in the draft plan and what kind of support businesses need, and whether there is support that is particular to the types of businesses that are based in Grangemouth?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Claire Baker

Have you been engaged in the drafting of the just transition plan that the Government is putting together, which might be published in the spring? Have there been conversations around that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Claire Baker

Yes, we had the publication of the Ana Stewart report in recent days. The committee takes an interest in that area, so I thank you for that contribution.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is an evidence session on the disability employment gap. The committee agreed to undertake initial work in this area to identify and address the barriers for disabled people getting into employment. Although we are hearing from the minister today, our call for views remains open for another week, and we encourage people to contribute.

Last week, we heard from the Fraser of Allander Institute, along with Enable Scotland, on structural barriers that disabled people face in accessing employment. Since then, we have been to visit Dovetail Enterprises in Dundee with Enable, and, on Monday, we went to visit the National Autistic Society Scotland to find out about its work in assisting young people into employment.

I welcome Richard Lochhead, the Minister for Just Transition, Employment and Fair Work. He is joined by Scottish Government officials Susan Ferguson, who is the interim deputy director for complex mental health care and dementia, and Lewis Hedge, who is deputy director for fair work and labour market strategy. As always, members and witnesses should keep their questions and answers short and concise. I invite the minister to make a brief opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

The commitment is quite long term. You are looking to halve the disability employment gap by 2038. Are there interim targets? Is there a pathway that has been set out, or does that depend on having the data? There have been successes, but do you know why we are having successes and where we need to focus policy? Are there interim targets, and is there a clear pathway towards meeting the 2038 target?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

We have heard a lot about the need for in-work support. It is good when someone is in employment, but it is important to provide that future support.

I bring in Michelle Thomson, to be followed by Colin Smyth.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

We will speak to the Education, Children and Young People Committee about the work that it is doing.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

Before I bring in Maggie Chapman, I will just say that what Enable Scotland described in its evidence about the private and public sectors was that there is more flexibility in the private sector. We heard that it was easier for it to make connections with the private sector. It runs things such as academies, where it takes in maybe 10 clients who spent a week at a workplace and would then go through the formal application process. Enable found that the public sector does not have the same degree of flexibility and responsiveness as the private sector. It is not that the public sector is reluctant to employ people; the issue is that in the private sector the lead-in time is better and the relationship building is easier. That gives a bit more background to what we have just been discussing.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

I will soon bring in Fiona Hyslop.

You referred to the fair work action plan. There are only two references to people with learning disabilities in that plan. Maggie Chapman asked about our being at risk of reaching a plateau in progress. The Fraser of Allander Institute report to which I referred earlier indicates that people with learning disabilities remain those who are furthest away from the workforce. There is not enough progress being made in that respect. If we do not make progress in that area we risk not meeting the target. Does the Scottish Government agree with that analysis, and is there a clear focus on people with learning disabilities being a group whom we need to concentrate on if we are to meet the target?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Claire Baker

That is helpful.