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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you, minister. Our inquiry focuses particularly on the Grangemouth area. As you will know, Ineos is based in Grangemouth, and it is described as the biggest polluter in Scotland. Its emissions are greater than those of any other site or company that is based in Scotland. If the UK Government is serious about cutting emissions, it will recognise the importance of taking action at Ineos and in the Grangemouth area.

The Scottish Government is working on a draft just transition plan for the Grangemouth area. What discussions are you having with it about the plan? Which of the measures that you have outlined are relevant to the Grangemouth area and will assist in the delivery of its just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Claire Baker

Before I bring in Jamie Halcro Johnston, I return to Colin Smyth’s question about co-operatives. Although there is no target for co-operatives, there is a target to have 500 employee-owned businesses in Scotland by 2030. The cabinet secretary might not be able to give us a progress update on that today, but perhaps he could write to the committee about that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Claire Baker

I bring in Jamie Halcro Johnston, to be followed by Fiona Hyslop. I remind members that we must finish this item of business by 10:25.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you. Other members will ask more questions about community involvement. Colin Beattie will ask the next questions; he will be followed by Colin Smyth.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Good morning and welcome to the 12th meeting of the Economy and Fair Work Committee in 2023. I have received apologies from Michelle Thomson; John Mason is attending in her place.

Our first item of business is a decision to consider the evidence received during the just transition inquiry, and correspondence from the Public Audit Committee, in private at our next meeting. Do members agree?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

I have had a request from Chris Bryceland to contribute. Chris, would you like to come in?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is the seventh evidence session in our inquiry into a just transition for the Grangemouth area. I welcome Màiri McAllan, Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Just Transition. She is joined by Chris Bryceland, the energy and infrastructure team leader, who is joining us remotely; Catriona Laing, deputy director for the climate change division; Andy McCall, the team leader for the industrial just transition planning team; and Liam Middleton, the head of critical energy infrastructure and commercial projects, all of whom are from the Scottish Government.

As always, it would be helpful if members and witnesses could keep their questions and answers as concise as possible.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

I think that the committee will welcome that, given the commission’s quite detailed, 84-point response to the draft energy plan. If that engagement happens at an earlier stage, it might increase the meaningfulness of the draft strategies as they are developed.

I wonder whether you can reflect of the experience of Longannet. One of the reasons why our emissions have reduced is the closure of the energy plant in Kincardine, following which the just transition committee commented that, although there had been success in reallocating jobs, there was no evidence of any benefits coming to the local community. It also said that the local community had not been consulted. Are there any lessons that the Government can learn from what was seen as an opportunity for a just transition at Longannet that did not appear to be realised? I suppose that Grangemouth will be the next big place to go through a transition similar to what Kincardine went through, so have any lessons been taken from that experience?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

Before I bring in Maggie Chapman, I think that the cabinet secretary might be interested to know that we held an inquiry into town centres and retail last year. As some of its findings are relevant to Grangemouth, she and the team might want to have a look at our report.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Claire Baker

I have a couple of points for clarification. First, the committee has not heard from a representative of Ineos; we had a trade union representative from the plant, but Ineos itself has not given evidence to the committee.

Secondly, the committee was keen to hear from the Grangemouth future industry board, but our understanding is that it is not really a board but more of a forum. We were keen to engage with it on some of the issues that you have talked about, such as roads and planning, but it does not have representatives as such. In fact, we have struggled a wee bit to understand its purpose and how it relates to us as a parliamentary committee. The cabinet secretary seems to hold the responsibility for speaking on its behalf. Is that correct?