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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Let us pivot to buses. Around 80 per cent of public transport journeys are made by bus. However, for a number of years, there has been a decline in the number of routes that are available in many local communities, urban and rural, which has resulted in some communities, which do not have a rail link or an alternative to buses, feeling isolated from the point of view of access to public transport.

Alongside that decline, an increasing amount of money has gone towards concessionary travel—around nine times the amount of money that goes into supporting bus routes that are not commercially viable goes towards concessionary travel. Do you think that that balance in the budget is right, given that there are communities where people feel as though, although they have a concessionary bus pass, they cannot access buses to make use of it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

We must be spending the best part of about half a billion pounds a year on concessionary travel schemes for young people and older persons. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

It would be fair to say that bus patronage has been declining for many decades. That is not peculiar to Scotland—it is a trend across the board—but I feel that we need to think about whether that annual expenditure of almost half a billion pounds is contributing to a level of transport inequality, whereby some communities do not feel as though they are linked into the bus network. There are communities in my constituency where people simply cannot access bus services, even though they have a bus pass. There are questions about whether spending so much money on concessionary travel is the most effective use of public money to deliver the most efficient and best bus network for people.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Okay. I do not know where the Volvo buses are being manufactured, but it is certainly not in Scotland or the UK. I suspect that it is in Turkey, which is outwith the European Union and therefore its fair work practices.

If we are going to deliver a just transition and decarbonise the bus network, we need to not just decarbonise the buses but create a manufacturing capacity in Scotland to deliver that decarbonisation of the network because, otherwise, we will not be delivering a just transition. You will be aware that companies such as ADL are laying off staff, largely because of a reduction in work in the second round and because of the national insurance increase. It is important that we do everything within our £4 billion budget to help to support economic growth for manufacturing capacity in Scotland to achieve our objectives of decarbonising our transport system.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Thanks. Can I now—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Matheson

In your response to the committee’s draft budget scrutiny letter, you mentioned that you were undertaking a

“cross-portfolio Net Zero finance project”

to look at the climate change programme financial risk. Can you update the committee on how that work has been taken forward and what it involves?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Matheson

I am aware of the Eyemouth development: I was fortunate enough to open it, when I was a cabinet secretary.

My next question will take you to confidence in the sector about using the money to deliver the outcomes that you are trying to achieve. I am keen to understand what the funding will be over two years. From where we are today, what will success look like in two years, when you are back before the committee and we ask you what that £150 million—or in excess of that, over two years—has delivered?

Key to that is confidence in the sector about consenting of projects, so that there is an on-going beat of projects that will attract manufacturing capacity. The budget funding is specifically for capital, with a small amount of revenue funding. Will any of it be used to ensure that we have sufficient capacity within the consenting elements of Government to ensure that there is a timely and effective process in place to deal with projects? I am sure that you are well aware of the on-going concerns about delays and the length of time that it can take for projects to be delivered, which creates uncertainty in the sector.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Matheson

You doubled the resource in the consents unit last year.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Matheson

I announced the £80 million on the basis that we thought that track status was about to be announced. That was the intention behind it at the time.

We have touched on hydrogen, offshore and onshore wind, and carbon capture, use and storage. What provision has been made in the budget to help to support wave and tidal power? We are global leaders in the area and have huge potential, but the sector is extremely difficult to commercialise, in order to make sure that it starts to deliver at scale.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Yes—