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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I have just a couple of follow-up questions. A lot of retailers invested in reverse vending machine facilities; I go past the Aldi in Crieff every week and see the unit with the RVM in it. How much of that has been mothballed and can be brought back, and how much of it is a sunk cost?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

And it is about the deposit return scheme—a new hope, let us call it.

There is now the potential for an aligned scheme across different parts of the UK. Initially, I am interested in hearing about the role that Zero Waste Scotland has played in this next chapter, the conversations that are being had at a UK-wide level, the development of the scheme, and how the experience in Scotland of coming very close to initiating a scheme has fed into where we are right now. Also, what will be your role in the run-up to 2027—assuming, of course, that the scheme is launched, goes ahead, is not subject to lobbying and being undermined and is eventually successful? I am interested to know how you see your role not just in developing policy, but in providing on-the-ground advice to retailers and the rest of it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Could non-municipal biodegradable waste end up being treated using that capacity, post-2028? Obviously, that depends on whether we get there with Government regulation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Following on from that, I am also interested in what your relationship with Environmental Standards Scotland is like. Take an area where we have a problem, such as battery storage at waste facilities. SEPA will have a view on regulations, but I am interested in where you sit within that conversation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are you saying that the vision and the objectives are broadly similar but that the regulatory and fiscal tools to drive and meet that vision are perhaps not being replicated at UK state level?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

As for the advice that you can give, you pointed initially to the cost savings that councils could deliver if they were not collecting heavy glass. What are your thoughts about glass now? I am not aware of the options in the UK-aligned scheme for, say, the Welsh to put glass into their DRS, or not. Is glass completely off the table?

I am just interested in your thoughts about the policy on glass. Has it changed? Are the economic and environmental benefits still there? Is including glass at some point within these schemes still a destination for you, or do you think that the world has moved on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Coming back to Bob Doris’s questions about incineration, I understand that, at the moment, we are slightly under capacity with incineration and the predicted use of incineration, but that by the time we get to 2028, we will be over capacity. I am interested in your thoughts, given what you have said already, about Scandinavian imports and exports and the Government’s consultation on non-municipal biodegradable waste. What will happen to the incinerators that are above capacity in 2028?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am interested in where we are now, since leaving the European Union. We have the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020. There are a lot of potential measures that can be agreed United Kingdom-wide, but there is also potential for divergence through devolution. I am interested in your work on developing strands of the plan and how you are working within the landscape of the 2020 act. Are the common frameworks delivering certainty on product stewardship measures or any other measures that you might be working on? Later in the evidence session, we will come on to the deposit return scheme and what will drop on Friday. I am interested in how you are operating within that somewhat fraught landscape.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay, so the Government is leading on that. You do not have a role advising or leading on that workstream.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

There is a plan for a plan?