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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I think that I understand that. We are talking about the waters beyond 200 nautical miles. Is much of the Scottish fleet operating beyond 200 nautical miles? Are we looking mostly at the pelagic sector?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

There are two views on reporting. The Scottish Government would like the reporting requirements to be removed from the bill, but you have received some alternative views. Some stakeholders would like there to be an incident-level reporting provision so that, if an ecocide offence was committed and there was a conviction, there would be some kind of reporting after the incident. What are your views on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I can see that it is about the ecological coherence with the continental shelf and how it extends beyond that. I think that that is a good example.

You mentioned notification, storage, access and reporting around marine genetic resources, as well as co-ordination of potential area-based management tools. How do you anticipate that being organised? Would the UK Government lead on it, or would the Scottish Government want to feed in? I am just trying to picture what the activity is and the reality of the Scottish Government’s function within that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Cabinet secretary, can you say a bit more about area-based management tools and how you anticipate the legislation working in a devolved context? What is the potential fix or amendment, or negotiated outcome, that you are looking for in relation to those tools? I am just trying to picture what, in practice, this all actually means.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

We have received some evidence on the bill’s provisions being a deterrent. Will you expand on that? I am interested in what has been put in place in the European Union. As you say, there is now more emphasis on ecocide as a criminal offence. How has that changed the conversation—or not—with regulators and corporations? What is the impact of having ecocide in legislation? Is it a deterrent? What evidence do you have on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you—that is helpful. I think that it adds to the evidence that we have taken already. Before other colleagues come in, I will move on to briefly discuss the definition of ecocide. The committee has spent a bit of time looking at the terms in your bill, such as “widespread” and “long-term”, the latter of which has been defined in the bill as 12 months. There is no definition of “serious adverse effects”. I am interested in your reflections on the evidence that we have taken, particularly in relation to the concerns around those specific terms. What is your response to those concerns, as you head into stage 1?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

You might have seen that we took evidence from NatureScot in which it suggested that 12 months is not an ideal definition of “long-term”, because it is very difficult to see how any ecosystem can recover, even from a relatively minor environmental impact over that timescale, so there are some questions about particular definitions in the bill. The question for us as a committee is whether we have the opportunity to think through a lot of that detail ahead of stage 2, which could come quite quickly on the back of stage 1. Therefore, your response to those questions at this point is quite important.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I guess that it would depend on the event, would it not? If there was a public inquiry into a major catastrophic event, reporting might follow anyway. That is food for thought. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I agree with most of what the minister has just set out—I think that that should be the process going forward. However, I invite him to consider the quite rare circumstances in which it would make sense to bypass the voluntary control agreement process and allow NatureScot to take action. If the minister is confident that there could not be any circumstance at all where urgent action would need to be taken, I accept his argument. However, if there is any doubt about that, I ask him to have a conversation with me between stage 2 and stage 3 and to think about lodging an amendment in that space that could be better than mine and could leave it open for urgent action to be taken without undermining the important voluntary agreement approach that has been established. We are all behind that approach and wish the minister well with it, but we have concerns in relation to exceptional circumstances.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Were those aspects considered in the development of the draft climate change plan?