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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, rather than a big-bang effect at the end.

I open the session to colleagues around the table.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That was the last item on our public agenda. We will go into private session after a break, to allow our witnesses and staff from broadcasting and the Official Report to leave.

11:16 Meeting continued in public until 11:40.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There are a lot more inquiries now than there were 20 or 30 years ago, but there is no reason that I can discern as to why that is the case. Ministers may be more likely to trigger inquiries than they were before, but we sometimes wonder why there was an inquiry into X when it would have been just as easy to have an inquiry into Y. The specific reasons why one inquiry happened when another did not can be rather obscure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is fine.

That is the question that I want to conclude on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I think that there would have to be minimum criteria, which would not mean that an inquiry would have to be held; it would mean that any inquiry would have to meet a number of set criteria before being launched.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thirty pounds? They have just spent £3.6 million on a new door for the House of Lords.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It might also be a different Government by that point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Other witnesses have suggested something very similar, so there is probably a strong view that that is a fairly sensible approach.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am delighted that you have both been able to come today to give evidence. It has been invaluable to our overall inquiry, which will continue after the summer recess.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You have largely hit the nail on the head as to why we are having our investigation, if you want to call it that. “Opaque” is a pretty good word to describe it, given a lot of the evidence that we have received so far.

Mr Campbell, you have taken a different tack on the same question. You have said:

“I see no merit in publishing individual remunerations ... Publication of overall accounts after the event would appear to be a necessary part of the process.”

Professor Sandy Cameron, who was the first witness to give evidence to the committee in our inquiry, said that there is a view that there appears to be no motivation and no incentive to keep an inquiry to time and to budget. If information on remuneration were to be published, would that help to focus minds a wee bit more?