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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I appreciate that, but, if someone has been involved in an inquiry for a number of years, I would have thought that they would have an emotional commitment to making sure that the recommendations that they had made were implemented. I would have thought that they would want to apply some pressure to ensure that that was the case.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mr Sturrock, you have suggested that a parliamentary committee could be established to look at delivery. I suppose that an existing committee could do that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mr Sturrock, you have said that there should be

“a clear ‘business plan’ / budget to cover planned activities / project scoping carried out at the outset”.

Given the number of inquiries that there are in Scotland and the United Kingdom, one would have thought that that would happen, but it does not seem to have had any impact on the duration of inquiries to date. How can that be tightened up to provide clarity for all concerned?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, I was impressed that your report on NHS Highland came in for less than £150,000, and it seems to have been successful.

In your responses to our call for views, you gave quite a substantive response on culture, talking about

“a likely consequence of a culture”

in which the people who want the inquiry want

“to look back to find fault or allocate blame ... rather than to look forward and to learn lessons about what worked ... and how things could be done differently or better in the future.”

In the past 24 hours, we have seen the news from south of the border about grooming and a specific inquiry. In Scotland, there is a clamour for another public inquiry to be held into reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete that makes it clear that they want a statutory, or judge-led, inquiry, which will take a considerable period of time, I imagine. Is there any way that we can turn the Titanic away from the iceberg and persuade the public, for example, or, indeed, ministers who instruct public inquiries that, although there will always be a role for public inquiries, there is a better or different way forward?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Exactly. We do not have years to rumble on; we get four or six-minute speeches.

I have one further question. We have seen a plethora of public inquiries, with the number increasing. The issue is not just time and cost but the overall number. Should the bar for the establishment of a public inquiry be raised? The press and individual organisations may be clamouring for inquiries, but should there be set criteria to meet before a public inquiry can be triggered, rather than a decision being made by a minister when the fourth estate and others call for it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

People want a Ferrari rather than a Ford, if you know what I mean.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Chilcot—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

About anything specific?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You have said that implementation is not for the inquiry.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is all right. You are not the first to use it.