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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Did the Chhokar case take a year, from 2000 to 2001?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Our long-term historical average will change if we are stuck with low growth, according to your projections. We are nowhere near where we were before the financial crash in 2007-08. It seems like we are still trying to recover from that situation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In paragraph 4.18 of the report, you say:

“The Income Tax net position is projected to be £616 million in 2025-26, which is £222 million lower than the December 2024 projection.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Do you think that there should be cost controls? Mr Kennedy has made a couple of helpful suggestions. Every other area of the public sector, whether it is the police, the NHS or local government, has a budget and is expected to deliver on it. However, it seems to me that inquiries are almost open ended. The Sheku Bayoh inquiry has gone on for six years. There should be an assessment at the outset of what the opportunity cost will be, for want of a better phrase. If resources are being taken away from the police to put into an inquiry that may or may not come to a conclusion in a few years’ time, and that may or may not produce recommendations that may or may not be implemented, should there not be a comparison of the costs? There is also an implication for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, relative to other areas where public money should be spent. Is that not something that you think should take place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the 20th meeting in 2025 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee.

The first item on our agenda is an evidence session with the Scottish Fiscal Commission on its May 2025 economic and fiscal forecasts. I welcome, from the Scottish Fiscal Commission, Professor Graeme Roy, the chair; Professor Domenico Lombardi, a commissioner; Michael Davidson, the head of social security and devolved taxes; and John Ireland, the chief executive.

I invite Professor Roy to make a brief opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Right. But why do you think that it is going to fall from £73 million this year to £70 million and remain there for five years in a row?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

And there is no inflationary component.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Would you or your team like to make any further points?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I thank you once again for your evidence—it is much appreciated. We will now take a short break of some five minutes before we move to the next session.

11:04 Meeting suspended.  

11:09 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Our second agenda item is consideration of evidence on the cost effectiveness of Scottish public inquiries. I welcome to the meeting Stephen McGowan, deputy Crown Agent, litigation, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, and David Kennedy, general secretary, Scottish Police Federation. We already have your written submissions, so we will move straight to questions.

Mr Kennedy, I have to say that you provided a hard-hitting submission, which was refreshingly direct about the issues that the committee is addressing. In it, you say that you want to

“raise concerns regarding the escalating and unsustainable burden that public inquiries are placing on policing in Scotland”

and that the

“current situation is critical.”

You mention the six major public inquiries that are on-going in Scotland—those on Sheku Bayoh, Emma Caldwell, Scottish child abuse, Scottish hospitals, Covid-19 in Scotland, and Mr Eljamel’s practices in NHS Tayside’s area—and you say that,

“collectively, they represent a crippling financial and operational burden on a service already facing the most acute resourcing crisis in over a decade.”

I could continue in that vein, but I am quite keen that you should have an opportunity to speak directly on the record.