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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
This is a round-table session; it is not a panel session, when we all just ask a barrage of questions. I am keen to get as many people in as possible, given that we have only got another hour and 10 minutes, so we will move to Liz Smith now, but I will come back to you.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You have not been to the cinema for a while, John. I think it is double what you are suggesting.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I have a few more people who want to come in. Do you want to come in on the same point, Alistair?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
John Mason is next.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
When will the UK national debt top £3 trillion? We are about 99 per cent of the way there, I understand.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Welcome to the second meeting in 2026 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. Today, we are taking evidence on the economic impact of Scotland’s five national performing companies in round-table format. Our witnesses are Alistair Mackie, chief executive at the Royal Scottish National Orchestra; Alex Reedijk, general director at Scottish Opera; Gavin Reid, chief executive at the Scottish Chamber Orchestra; Steven Roth, executive director at Scottish Ballet; and Liam Sinclair, executive director and co-chief executive at the National Theatre of Scotland. I warmly welcome you all and thank you for providing a joint economic and wellbeing impact assessment, which is very helpful in informing our questions.
I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for the session. I will explain the process. I will start by asking the first question, which is for Alistair Mackie. If anyone else wants to come in, just let me know by putting up your hand or nodding or by indicating to the clerk. If you decide to tickle your nose at any point, you will be brought in.
Our approach is to enable everyone to contribute to the degree that they wish to and to make it more relaxed, instead of holding a session in which the same question is put to all and we end up with five people giving the same answer. This format allows you to come in when you feel that you wish to.
Alistair, we are considering the costs and benefits of our performing companies. We have a paper that says that
“every £1 received from the Scottish Government generates £2.62”
in gross value added,
“along with £1.75 in wellbeing benefits.”
However, figures for the RSNO alone suggest that you generate £4.10 in GVA and £2.80 in wellbeing benefits. Why is support for the RSNO so much more valuable than for the other performing companies?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Telepathy does not work particularly well with me, I have to say. I will continue.
First, I should say how much I am looking forward to your Viennese gala at the Beacon arts centre in Greenock on Saturday.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You did yourself down a wee bit there because you said that there is no real economic benefit, but the report that you submitted shows there to be significant benefit. For example, one of the things that the RSNO has said is that an additional £3 million of funding would provide some £13.9 million pounds of economic impact. Some of that would percolate to other communities. When one actually looks at the impacts on community wellbeing and does the sums, performing in the community is 2.8 times more valuable than performing in some of our larger urban theatres.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
So does Alex Reedijk.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You are talking about a significant boost to capital in the current financial year, but that will reduce such that, by 2029-30, it will be lower than it was in 2023-24. My concern about that is that you will get inflationary impacts—you do not have a 15 or 16 per cent increase in capacity, but you have all this additional capital, so prices go up and then, suddenly, the share of capital declines, relatively speaking, and you are stuck with high prices. Is that a potential impact?