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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
There will be a division.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
Amendment 65 disagreed to.
Amendment 66 not moved.
Section 52 agreed to.
Long title agreed to.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Stephen Boyle, you said that, in 2024, the Scottish Government
“continued to take short-term decisions, reacting to events and external shocks rather than making fundamental changes to how public money is spent”
and
“embedding recurring savings which will put the baseline budget on a more sustainable footing.”
You say that what we have seen is
“perpetuating short-term decision making”.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Yes, having a plethora of plans and strategies is an issue. There are about 38 in the climate change field alone.
You talk about the lack of detail on delivery in relation to the infrastructure workforce and the NHS. What level of detail would you like to see? What is required? The committee has raised the lack of strategic financial planning a number of times, and it is also raised in some of the submissions that we have received for today’s session. In a way, long-term financial planning works against some of the issues that we have touched on, such as demand-led services. The question is how we balance that, which I think is very difficult.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Indeed they are, and I agree that persistence is very important. The Scottish Government is now taking on board the fact that, if it does not respond to some of the points that this committee raises, we will simply continue to raise them until it does. That is very important. A moving-swiftly-on approach is not effective.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I think that the chances of that happening are probably nil. The way I see it, we will probably still have the same system when we are in our dotage.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
That has been the case since I was a councillor in the 1990s.
On council tax, Lindsay Scott was talking earlier about the public understanding of the tax system. Most people I have encountered think that the council tax pays for all local government services. If you tell them that it is 14 or 15 per cent, they simply do not believe you—they think, “That cannae be. I pay £X a year. How can that possibly only amount for a fraction of services?” There has to be a level of education there.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
One of the things that have been talked about in some of the submissions is the need to do fewer things but to do them well and in depth, and that is what we try to do in this committee. There are lots of things that I would love to do, such as having an inquiry into public sector procurement costs and taking an in-depth look at the issue of local authority funding.
We work on the same distribution model that we have had for 30-odd years, with the addition of the funding floor about 10 or 15 years ago. The issue has been that, when some political parties or local authorities have tried to change that, there has been a huge kickback because, as with council tax, there are winners and losers. I remember that the Labour Party had a proposal to change the funding arrangements, which would have cost my local authority about £6 million or £7 million a year, and there was a huge hoo-hah about it. That is probably one of the reasons why the distribution formula is almost set in aspic, like the council tax.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I will take three brief points and then move on to public sector reform, which is the last issue that we will touch on before everyone has an opportunity to make final wind-up statements, should they wish to.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Zero-based budgeting would no doubt help with that.