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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

On the surface, public inquiries are pretty straightforward. They are about what happened, why it happened, who is to blame and how we prevent it from happening again—however, look where we are.

Mary, in your written submission, you state:

“Section 28 of the Fatal Accidents and Sudden Death etc (Scotland) Act 2016 introduced a requirement that those to whom FAI recommendations are directed at must provide a response to a FAI’s Determination within 8 weeks. The response must set out what changes have been made or are proposed, or the reasons why no action is being taken.”

You suggest that

“a similar requirement could be introduced in law requiring participants in public inquiries to report to Parliament with their written response to the inquiries’ reports.”

You say:

“this was a positive step which occurred in the UK Infected Blood Inquiry.”

Can you talk us through your thinking on that a wee bit?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is very helpful. You touched on the fact that 20 public inquires are on-going—in 1997, there were no more than five—and there are two new ones this year. Do Governments jump too quickly to a public inquiry in order to assuage public concerns and almost kick the issue into touch?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is important that people have an opportunity to say their piece, but, if that ends up getting lost in a 10,000-page report, how significant will that be in having an impact on what happens next?

I have a final question for Rebecca McKee. Two weeks ago, we asked Professor Cameron about the motivation for legal teams to deliver more timeously during inquiries—I will put it diplomatically—because inquiries can perhaps be seen as a dripping roast for lawyers. Where is the motivation for them to do their work more quickly and less expensively?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is great—you have more or less answered the next two questions that I was going to ask. However, I will go back to the issue of timescales. You talked about work being undertaken in modules. Is it your view that, if different aspects of an inquiry can be looked at in parallel, as opposed to there being a two-dimensional process in which issues are considered one after the other, that can reduce the timeframe for an inquiry?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Will that, in itself, not be helpful in reducing the timeframe?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

But that is what people who call for the inquiries are often seeking.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, but if a 10,000-page report or whatever is produced at the end, who will read it? Denmark and Sweden produced Covid reports years ago. Ultimately, we can get to the stage at which there are diseconomies of scale. We might end up with something so monumental that no one can grasp it. Are we in danger of doing that with the Covid inquiries and perhaps with the Scottish child abuse inquiry?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Given how cumbersome inquiries are in Scotland and in the rest of the UK, relative to other areas, what can we do differently to ensure that the people who clamour for inquiries get the justice that they need and deserve but that that does not take five, 10 or 15 years or have an impact on public services? For example, some NHS services have to be forgone in order to fund aspects of inquiries.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

An inquiry is not done without an impact on other areas, which is an issue. If it is an NHS-based inquiry, the NHS is more or less expected to fund it from resources that would otherwise go into doctors, nurses, medicines and patients.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Can you think of any examples where the terms of reference were spot on and helped delivery of a tight inquiry? In contrast, can you think of inquiries where the terms of reference were woolly, which led to an unsatisfactory approach that ran off in different directions and stuff like that, rather than focusing on what the core purpose of the inquiry was meant to be?