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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There should perhaps be an obligation on Parliament to look at that to ensure that the profile is not lost.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Since 2007, there have been 10 public inquiries in Scotland, five of which are on-going. We have been given an update on the costs so far: up to £240 million at today’s prices. The Scottish Parliament information centre produced a table of costs. As Rebecca McKee pointed out, 36 per cent of the costs go on legal fees, but more than 10 per cent go on consultancy fees. Who are these consultants? What do they do for public inquiries that has cost the Scottish taxpayer £25 million and the UK taxpayer no doubt considerably more?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am just wondering what a consultant would do and where they would step in, given that there are already lawyers and this, that and the other.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I would have thought that £25 million would be a lot of money just to check out some venues.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mary Morgan, where should the balance be struck?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There will always be an impact on services, given the time involved and so on. Is there an argument for having a separate fund for public inquiries so that, when the Government announces a public inquiry, organisations can dip into a specific fund to try to mitigate some of the impacts on the NHS, justice services or whatever?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mary, do you have any examples of anything like that? Do you feel that inquiries should stick to the terms of reference that have been set? I understand that, on occasion, the terms of reference can change during an inquiry and can be widened or deepened.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There have certainly been calls for that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Rebecca McKee, the number of inquiry recommendations has ranged from one to up to 290. Between 1990 and 2024, 54 inquiries made 3,175 recommendations. Mary Morgan made an interesting point about interim recommendations. What are your thoughts on that?

The Thirlwall inquiry, which is investigating the circumstances surrounding the actions of former nurse Lucy Letby, conducted a review of past inquiry recommendations on healthcare issues and found that many had not been acted on. Recommendations are made, the Government accepts them and then nothing seems to happen.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mary Morgan, you have said that increased consistency in how inquiries are conducted would likely lead to better cost-effectiveness. If inquiries are judge led, they might be consistent but there will not be a positive impact on costs, because one of the concerns with judge-led inquiries is that they seem to take much longer in undertaking the evidential aspect of the inquiry and publishing their report. Do you share that concern, given the implications for the health service?