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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 March 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

We are looking at the Scottish spending review, which involves large sums of public money, so we want people to be very straightforward about exactly what they think. If you think that IJBs are the greatest thing since sliced bread, please tell us; if you think that they are the work of Satan, tell us that. I imagine that your view will be somewhere between those two extremes, but we are keen to hear it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

You said that there are opportunities for improvement. Will you give some examples of those?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

That is why the IJBs were established.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Capital funding is scheduled to reduce over the next five years. It is going to be the same in 2029-30 as it was in 2023-24 in real terms. Of course, that is only if you accept the gross domestic product deflator, which I think is a poor measure of capital.

I was going to save this issue for next week’s meeting, but I will mention it now, given what you have just said. The Scottish Futures Trust has talked about innovative funding mechanisms, such as road pricing and congestion charging. Motorists already pay 63.54p per litre in fuel duty, plus VAT, and they also pay VAT on whatever else is charged on a litre, so the total VAT probably comes to 70p to 85p a litre. They also pay road tax. Are those innovative charges realistic and deliverable? How popular would they be? I think that we know the answer to that second question.

What other mechanisms could be used to bring in additional capital for things such as routine road maintenance? We have all driven along some of the horrific roads that are an issue across the entire UK. It is a big problem, and Governments have tackled it in a half-hearted way. The UK Government has put significant money into the issue, but it appears that the money is being used for things other than what it is supposed to be used for.

Would you like to see, for example, as part of the annual capital allocation, a ring-fenced fund for tackling potholes, over and above the normal local government capital allocation, and for that to be distributed in line with the normal distribution formula?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

You just want a big capital allocation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

If anyone wants to answer that, please let me know. In the meantime, I will ask a question of Tiffany Ritchie. When it comes to asset disposals, colleges will be permitted to retain 70 per cent of their sales proceeds of more than £1 million. Why is it 70 per cent and not 60, 80 or 100 per cent? What is the rationale behind that figure?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

In your submission, you said:

“To secure efficiencies across the sectors we fund, we provide funding for the delivery of procurement services and digital infrastructure at a national level through Advanced Procurement for Universities and Colleges”,

as a result of which you said that significant savings have been made. Can you talk about how that is working, how it has managed to save resource and the amount of capital that you are able to deploy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Yes—you say that, through Jisc and APUC, savings of £27 million and £37.2 million, respectively, are made.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Is the Scottish spending review helping you to enable that work by, for example, allowing colleges and universities to enter into contracts over a longer period of time, or is it completely superfluous in that regard? We are looking at how impactful and helpful the Scottish spending review is, and how it could be improved.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 24 February 2026

Kenneth Gibson

That takes us on to issues such as widening the tax base and where we set taxes. If we had had economic growth at the level that we had before the financial crash, we would all be significantly better off. I think that all the studies have shown that: incredibly, we might have been up to 30 per cent better off per capita, simply as a result of having an extra 1 or 2 per cent of economic growth over that 17 or 18-year period.