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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Peter, we have so much confidence in you.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Are there skills gaps? When I speak to people from businesses, they say that there are specific skill shortages, such as in welding. A steel fabricator in my constituency is taking people who have been long-term unemployed and putting them through a 15-week advanced welding course with qualifications. They tend to be people in their late 20s and 30s, or even older people. Although there might be a number of people in construction, are there gaps where there are particular difficulties?
Geographically, do we have the people where we need them? Obviously, there is not a huge workforce in rural Perthshire, for example, to work on the A9. They all have to move there, at least temporarily. How do we deal with those issues in the pipeline of provision?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
But when you have gone out to a full consultation and there are no statutory objectors and so on, and people are encouraged to think that something is going to happen but it does not happen year on year, the public, who ultimately pay for it, feel let down and disappointed. I would not be surprised if the cost of all that for the A737 project, since 2004, is more than the cost of the project itself, which was £12 million, which is pretty modest, I would suggest.
There seems to be much more bureaucracy, for want of a better word, in relation to the preparation of projects, which ultimately increases the cost and the delay to the delivery that everyone wants to see, whether it is housing, a school, a hospital, a road or whatever it happens to be. That is what is frustrating. You will have seen how many umpteen times the A9 or whatever has been raised in the Parliament, and that is because members genuinely want to see things happen on the ground.
How can we expedite that process? I am not talking about doing it in a week, but 10 or 20 years is a bit frustrating. There is a huge cost to that, so how can we make procurement more efficient and effective?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Yes. How do we get more bang for the buck? Procurement costs are disproportionately higher in the UK, including Scotland, than they are in other countries—clearly they are. I went to the Faroe Islands and looked at the cost of their tunnels. They built a 22km tunnel for €600 million. How much would it cost to build that here—how many billions?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Indeed—of course it is.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I have two more questions—well, I actually have loads, but colleagues want to come in. How do you decide on the balance between maintenance and new project delivery? For example, after the 2008 crash, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, Alistair Darling, cut Scotland’s capital allocation by 40 per cent; that was subsequently reduced to 20 per cent, as you will recall. However, the Scottish Government did actually put resource of some £500 million into capital to try to restore that. At that time, it was said that half of all the money that was available for capital spend went on care and maintenance, so it meant that the number of new projects that were going to be delivered was massively down.
However, as you will know if you drive along the roads in Scotland, for example, or look at other pieces of public infrastructure, such as bridges or whatever it happens to be, there are real concerns that they are not really up to scratch in many areas. We can argue about the size of the whole cake, but how do we decide to say, “Look—we really need to spend X per cent on maintenance before we even think about new projects?” How do we strike that balance? I know that it is a difficult one.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I call John Mason, then Liz Smith.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You are both taking the fifth. That is fine. Thank you very much. I found your evidence really effective and extremely helpful. No doubt a number of the issues that we have discussed with you will come up when we take evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government.
12:20
Meeting continued in private until 12:34.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2026 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We have received apologies from Craig Hoy.
Under our first agenda item, we will take evidence from the Scottish Fiscal Commission on its report “Fiscal Sustainability Perspectives: what Scotland’s finances mean for the next parliament”, which was published last week. We will also take the opportunity to explore with the SFC issues to be included in our legacy report for our successor committee.
I welcome, from the Scottish Fiscal Commission, Professor Graeme Roy, the chair; John Ireland, the chief executive; and Claire Murdoch, the head of fiscal sustainability and public funding.
I invite Professor Roy to make a short opening statement.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Okay. So, the proportion of people who are going to be higher rate taxpayers will exceed the proportion down south, whereas it used to be lower.