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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Keith Brown

I have a few quick questions related to the last point that you made, when you made the comparison between Scotland and the European average. Do you know the relevant figures for the rest of the UK? What percentage of the UK’s total expenditure is on culture, and can you include Wales in that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Keith Brown

Okay. With regard to your reserves, I think that you said—you can correct me if I am wrong—that the entirety of the reserves comes from national lottery funding, and that no part of the reserves has been contributed by Scottish Government funding. Is that right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Keith Brown

This will be my final question. Last week we heard that there has been a 40 per cent reduction in local government funding at UK level, which will have a consequential similar effect in Scotland because of the UK Government’s cuts here.

At no point in my memory of the past 13 years has an amendment to the Scottish Government’s budget asking for more funding for the sector been proposed by any other party. We will hear from the cabinet secretary next week, but how would you describe your relationship with the Scottish Government just now?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Keith Brown

I am keen to find out whether the Scottish Government could do anything else with the powers that it has, which are quite different from devolved powers in Quebec and Catalonia on taxation and other things. Are there things that the Scottish Government is not doing that it has the power to do, and are there analogies, whether they portray the Scottish Government favourably or unfavourably, that could give us a better picture of what it could be doing? If anyone was able to provide that information in writing, that would be useful.

Meeting of the Parliament

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Keith Brown

I reassure Stephen Kerr that I think that it is very unlikely that he will make himself any less popular than he currently is. [Laughter.]

I agree with the central point that Mr Kerr made, or at least one of his points, which was that, when we undertake this kind of reform, we should have an idea of what is important to local people. The bill touches on some of the most intimate affairs of the general population and it should not be shrouded behind legalese or issues of legal access; it should be as accessible as possible.

Having said that, I support the bill. It sits comfortably in the western European tradition of economic affairs taking place in an organised setting, and trusts and clearly defined rules on inheritance and succession have been a part of Scottish life for centuries. Today, many people across Scotland are either connected to a trust or are themselves trustees, and matters of inheritance and succession are dealt with across Scotland on a daily basis. That shows that, although this is a largely technical piece of legislation, it is an important one for many Scots.

To go back to the point that Stephen Kerr made about ensuring that the process is as accessible as possible, an example from criminal law of something that is not accessible is the idea of the “not proven” verdict. Sheriffs and judges are not allowed to explain the implications of a “not proven” verdict. That is the reason why I changed my mind on its abolition. If we cannot explain a principle of law to the public, it is not accessible. It is important that we make the area that the bill deals with as accessible as possible.

As has been said before, the main piece of existing legislation on trusts dates back to 1921, making the law effectively more than 100 years old. Of course, the language in the 1921 act is challenging and outdated, but the numerous amendments to the legislation since then make it immensely challenging for trust creators, trustees and other beneficiaries to understand their rights and responsibilities in the system. To put it simply, our society has changed, but our trust laws have struggled to change with it.

Let us not forget that trusts are not only about financial matters but are used extensively by charitable organisations and pension funds. They can be used to protect and administer assets on behalf of vulnerable people and to streamline business operations by setting funds aside to deal with potential future liabilities. In an ever-changing world, therefore, trust law must be robust, adaptable and, above all, comprehensible, as well as accessible.

Accordingly, one of the main purposes of the bill is to modernise, centralise and clarify the rules on trusts in Scotland by creating a single accessible statute that will ensure that individuals and professionals can navigate the law on trusts with confidence. In short, the bill offers the Parliament an opportunity to make the lives of everyday Scots just that bit easier.

However, the bill is not only about updating the law on trusts. It is also about modernising and clarifying the rules on succession and inheritance. Just for the record, I am totally opposed to the proposed changes to inheritance tax that the UK Government is currently talking about.

Inheritance is primarily a matter for families and relationships, and, just as the role of trusts has changed since 1921, so, too, have many of the societal norms relating to families and relationships. The bill, therefore, aims to update the law on succession in line with those societal changes, and the proposed simplification to succession rules is a testament to that. We recognise the changing role of spouses and civil partners in our society, and it is important, therefore, that the law should acknowledge them as key members of the deceased’s family in the new definitive statute that the bill proposes. Further to that, the bill also proposes a more equitable approach to biological children, adopted children and stepchildren in the event of the death of a parent, which is also a much-needed change.

The bill is the product of two large-scale law reform projects that were undertaken by the Scottish Law Commission in a process that has spanned more than a decade and involved extensive consultations, discussions and reports. Its aim is clear: it is to ensure that our Scottish law on trusts and succession is coherent and adaptable to the modern world.

In conclusion, I say that the bill is a significant piece of legislation that updates our legal framework for the needs of our modern society and makes it readily accessible to the public. It simplifies trust laws, ensures clarity for stakeholders and acknowledges the changing dynamics of our families. Therefore, I urge all my fellow parliamentarians to support the bill, recognising that its passage will benefit not just us today, but generations still to come.

16:18  

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Keith Brown

To ask the Scottish Government what assessment it has made of the potential impact that any future devolution of employment law to the Scottish Parliament would have on the development of the wellbeing economy. (S6O-02552)

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Keith Brown

Given that both the Scottish and United Kingdom trade union congresses have come out in support of the devolution of employment law, and that a number of Labour Party MSPs have spoken previously in the Scottish Parliament in support of that policy, does the minister have any explanation as to why not a single Labour member of this Parliament signed the motion that the Parliament considered last night in support of the devolution of employment law? The motion did not mention independence; it mentioned only devolution, which is meant to be the settled policy of the Labour Party. Is he aware whether the UK Labour Party still supports the policy of devolving employment policy to the Scottish Parliament?

Meeting of the Parliament

Devolution of Employment Law

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Keith Brown

I do not know whether the member thinks that those in trade unions and workers across Scotland will, in hearing those weasel words, give any credence to the Labour Party’s position, or see any reason not to support the motion, just because it is from the SNP. The motion

“calls on the UK Government not to further erode ... the hard-won rights of”

Scottish

“workers.”

What we are stating is that those rights are not just for the benefit of workers, but for the betterment of society and our economy. Across the chamber, we can reaffirm this Parliament’s commitment to working in partnership with trade unions and to entrenching and building on those rights. Our workers deserve nothing less, and it is high time that we took control.

There is nothing in this that is contentious for the Labour Party—it has stated for a number of years now that that is what it wants to do. We can take control of our own destiny and craft a country where workers’ rights are valued; where fairness is the norm; and where the Scottish Parliament works in partnership with trade unions, rather than against them, to build a fairer, more just and prosperous Scotland. What we are getting from the Labour Party is an indication that it will support nothing. If it cannot do it in Opposition, it will certainly not do it in Government.

I ask the Parliament to support the motion in my name.

17:25  

Meeting of the Parliament

Devolution of Employment Law

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Keith Brown

Is Donald Cameron aware that the one part of employment law that has been agreed to be devolved under the Smith convention deals with employment tribunals?

Meeting of the Parliament

Decision Time

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Keith Brown

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. The app is saying that I have voted no, but it has not gone down to zero, so I do not know whether my vote has gone through. I would have voted no.