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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

John Swinney

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

John Swinney

Will the member give way?

Meeting of the Parliament

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

John Swinney

You have to use the microphone.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

John Swinney

Despite the spectacularly difficult current fiscal context, the Scottish Government has increased the resources available to local government next year by over £570 million. I have also invited council leaders to work with us and other partners to design our services around the needs and interests of the people and communities of Scotland. That is how we will deliver sustainable public services in partnership.

In addition to funding from the Scottish Government, local authorities enjoy a range of revenue-raising powers that are not available to other public services, including newly devolved powers over empty property rates relief.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

John Swinney

No. The budget has been designed to create sustainable public services, with an increase of £570 million in the local government budget that was not expected. I have offered local authorities the opportunity to be partners in how we take forward the reform of the public sector. That was exactly what I did when we designed the Covid recovery strategy, which was agreed with local government. I look forward to building on that as we take forward the local government settlement, which I stress is £570 million higher than local authorities expected it to be.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

John Swinney

The proper comparison of budgets that Parliament expects of me, as the acting finance minister, is between one budget and the next budget. From last year’s budget to this year’s budget, the local government finance settlement has increased by £570 million.

In the dialogue that I had before the budget statement, local government asked me for an increase of £1 billion in its budget allocation. I was clear with local government that £1 billion could not be delivered in the current fiscal context. Local government was expecting a flat cash settlement; it expected no more money next year in comparison with this year, because that is what it was encouraged to believe from the resource spending review, but in fact, I have delivered £570 million more. That is a welcome settlement for local government.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

John Swinney

Frankly, I do not recognise the world that Liz Smith talks about. [Interruption.] Well, okay. Let me explain the dialogue with local authorities. I had several discussions with local government about the preparation for the budget, right up until the eve of the budget. I had discussions with all the political leaders in COSLA of all shades of political opinion. My colleagues who are involved in the work on the national care service have been involved in dialogue with local government, but I stress that local government has made it quite clear, because of its opposition to the national care service, that it does not particularly want to take forward dialogue with the Scottish Government on those questions.

When it comes to wider partnership working, I cite to Liz Smith the work that the Scottish Government did, in partnership with local government, that resulted in the Covid recovery strategy being agreed—it was a jointly agreed proposition. With the president of COSLA, I chair a delivery board to take forward such priorities. I wish that members of Parliament would reflect the reality of what is going on, not the invention of reality that we get from the Conservatives.

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

John Swinney

I am keen to take forward that approach, as is the social justice secretary, who is sitting beside me. We have embarked on such discussions with local authorities and we look forward to developing that work into the new fiscal framework. Local authorities have other tax-varying powers, such as those in relation to empty property relief. In due course in this parliamentary session, we will legislate on a visitor levy. Local authorities have at their disposal other measures, but they can rely on a £570 million increase in their budget that they were not expecting.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Swinney

I am beginning to get worried about her obsession with it. I confirmed that, in order to deal with the fuel poverty that exists in our country, the punishing inflation that people are wrestling with and the sky-high energy costs that have been fuelled by the mismanagement of the United Kingdom’s energy and economic policies by Liz Smith’s allies in the United Kingdom, I am allocating that resource to support those who are in fuel poverty. Surely the Tories could welcome that.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

John Swinney

Local government’s expectation from the resource spending review was of a flat cash settlement, which would have meant no more money next year compared with this year. I have just announced £550 million of additional expenditure. Is it impossible for anybody in here to welcome the fact that that is a departure from the resource spending review and that it addresses in a significant way the issues that local government has put to me?

I said in my statement that we would work with local government on addressing its concerns about ring fencing and the level of reporting in certain programmes, but Parliament also expects to hear from local government about the performance and delivery of certain issues that really matter to members of Parliament. Indeed, Mr Griffin and his colleagues ask these very questions. We will take forward that discussion with local government to create a partnership in which we can work together, and that approach will be greatly assisted by the fact that we have just allocated £550 million of new additional resources to local government.