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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
I do not feel that we are getting anywhere with what you are saying, to be honest. Our papers say:
“The taskforce is also looking to build training to give police officers and staff the knowledge, skills and confidence to support that balance around the care, support and monitoring in day-to-day policing.”
It sounds to me as if you are still going to rely on police officers to fill that gap.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
You have talked about the work to scale things down so that we are making some progress, but that is not in the area where the gap is. It is where there are two competing models when someone has a mental health problem and a diagnosis that needs to be addressed. You have made progress in that area—is that right?—but that is not where the gap is.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
What you have talked about is exactly why the committee is conducting its inquiry. However, the truth is that not much progress has been made. This morning, we have heard from witnesses that a gap exists, which has fallen to our police force to fill. That is what David Threadgold said. Do you agree that not very much progress has been made?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
I understand. For thoroughness, if that situation arose again, perhaps it would be worth asking the police why they were not using the fixed-penalty approach for certain offences. I had understood that that is what it is for. Would that mean that the police would then charge people with those offences in the usual way?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
I will conclude with this question. I would like to think that, if this situation happened again, the Government would ask more questions about why the police were not using the scheme for an offence, so that a committee could make a more informed decision and not simply say, “The police are not using it. Well, that is that—just strike it off, then.” The offence was on the list in the first place for a reason, so the scheme was meant to be used. I just make the point that, in future, it might be worth interrogating the police—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
—about why they are not using it. What happens if, as Robert Wyllie said, two years down the road, the police say, “We would like it back, please”?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
But it is not a police issue.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
But you are saying that it is not an NHS issue, so—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
I do not really understand what you are saying, to be perfectly truthful.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Pauline McNeill
I am not asking you about that.
I know that you have helped, and I commend all that work. However, you have your role and we have our role, and we are trying to ascertain, in relation to all the people whom you have helped, at what point the police officer can walk away and give that response—because it is not their job to deal with something that they are not trained to deal with. That is also why I am confused about what it says in our papers:
“The taskforce is also looking to build training to give police officers and staff the knowledge, skills and confidence to support that balance around the care, support and monitoring in day-to-day policing”.
It feels like we might be going back to square 1. I am trying to ascertain what progress has been made in allowing police officers to go and do their jobs.