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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Would that be done by the National Crime Agency or by Police Scotland?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Are you able to recruit people with those skills directly, if you decide that they are needed?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

I have a couple of questions. One is on the ransomware issue, and the other is on the evidence that ACC Stuart Houston has provided to the committee on exploitation, physical harm and so on.

I do not know whether this question is for Miles Bonfield—you can decide between you—but I am interested in the recent attacks on M&S. David Keenan quite rightly outlined the investment that is needed by companies, but, in the case of M&S, it was reported to be a simple breach. Somebody phoned up the IT help desk, as we are all used to doing, and that was a simple way in.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

It is really helpful to have that understanding. With the proper investment that is being talked about and with warnings and police resource, how easily could we shut down the scope for ransomware incidents?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Okay. Let us see what the full facts are.

With regard to ransomware, there is information out there about groups such as scattered spider. Who are these people? Do we know much about them? Are they highly trained individuals? What is attracting them to crime? It might be important to get behind that.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Secure Accommodation

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

I am glad that the subject has come up. There is a crossover between our role and the role of the Education, Children and Young People Committee in relation to secure accommodation.

From our perspective, it is important to keep an eye on the matter to make sure that, in meeting the commitment that no young person under the age of 18 will be in custody but will instead be in secure accommodation, that does not give unfair disadvantage to the young people who are in secure accommodation on other grounds and that there is sufficient accommodation.

A rumour was circulating—although it was not confirmed—that a case was in court about a week ago for which secure accommodation was not available. That has not been confirmed. However, at the time of a statement on the issue, I asked the minister whether she was satisfied that there will be enough accommodation.

When it comes to court matters, the sheriff has no cause to ask whether accommodation is available; they can ask only whether the person will be detained. Previously, the sheriff would have asked about that and, if secure accommodation had not been available, some other arrangement would have been found. That is why people such as William Lindsay Brown ended up in Polmont prison. It is vital for the Criminal Justice Committee to monitor that area as the policy is embedded.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Given what we have just heard, including about the international aspect of cybercrime, fighting crime that is perpetrated by people who are clearly very skilled and intelligent may be a very attractive career to somebody who sees that they could use their skills to go after those people. Do you agree that a bit more discussion and public promotion of the need to resource this area might attract the people whom you need?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

That is fair enough.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Stuart Houston, I think that you said that you have difficulty recruiting people to fight cybercrime. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Pauline McNeill

Over the past two hours, it has become apparent—as I think that Ben Macpherson was suggesting—that this is a much bigger area of criminal law and social concern than we realised at the beginning of the evidence session. I am clear about that.

Chris Ulliott, should the Government legislate to outlaw the payment of ransoms?