The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
The Government looked at different contingency options—that is all there in the documents that you have seen. We got to the point at which, in our view, public ownership became the best option—given that we were in a process in which there was no ideal option—to meet the objectives that the Scottish Government had always been driven by: completing the ferries; protecting, if we could, the future of the shipyard; and protecting employment at the shipyard. That is why public ownership became the option that we pursued.
It is no secret that that was not the preferred option of Jim McColl. In the latter stages, before we got to public ownership, the parent company, Clyde Blowers Capital, put an alternative proposal to the Scottish Government. You can see from all of the documentation that that proposal was rigorously assessed and considered by the Government and that, for a range of state aid, procurement and legal issues, we could not accept the proposal.
Of course Jim McColl has views on the issue, and some of his views have more credence than others, as, I am sure, people will say about mine.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
I am the First Minister. You can—
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
Indeed.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
I assume so. Ultimately, I do not end up at places, making announcements, unless I have agreed to do so. If it was in the way that these things happen, it would have come to me as a proposal that, because of the nature of the announcement, it was appropriate for me to do it, and I would have agreed. Obviously, it is common sense to say that I must have agreed to that, because otherwise I would not have been there, making the announcement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
It was several years ago, so I will not say that I can tell you the exact sequence of events from memory, but, in the normal course of events—I have no reason to believe that it would have been different here—it is unlikely that I would have instigated it, because I would not necessarily have had knowledge that it was coming up on that date. It would have come to me as a proposal, and such proposals come to me regularly. The Government makes announcements—if not every day, then regularly, several times a week—and in all of those there will be a process of judgment about who is the right person to make the announcement. When the judgment is that it should be me, that will come to me as a proposal, and I am pretty certain that that is what would have happened here.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
If there are any points beyond those answers that the committee wants to explore, that is obviously why I am here today.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
Yes—I see no reason why not.
I am not going back on the commitment that I gave earlier but, since you are asking me about that, I want to say something for the record—although everything that I say here is on the record; that is understood. As you know, there is a requirement for the Government to assess anything that it puts in the public domain to make sure that legally privileged or commercially confidential information is being treated appropriately. With that caveat about the process that we need to go through, I see no reason why not.
I have been paraphrasing—although paraphrasing pretty closely—what was in the briefing in terms of the advice that was given to me about the on-going negotiations, and I certainly see no reason why I cannot provide that to the committee.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
That is what I am saying: I was not involved personally in that decision.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
From memory, I think that it was a special adviser who was with me. I asked for some work to be done out of that meeting.
That meeting was on 31 May 2017. By that point, there were already concerns about slippage in the contract. There were concerns about what I would describe as the cash flow and financial position of FMEL, so when Jim McColl asked to see me, it was reasonable that I spoke to him, given the importance of the contract, which we are reflecting on now.
You have seen all the material that will tell you what the issues were that were of concern to him and to us at the time, which were around the finances. There had already been discussion about the changing of the milestone payments. The reduction of the final 25 per cent payment to 10 per cent freed up £17 million to help with cash flow. Jim was and has been publicly—although not since then—of the view that he had money unfairly tied up in the surety bond.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Nicola Sturgeon
Special advisers are civil servants—they are temporary civil servants—so that was not an issue in that respect. You say that the meeting was a “big deal”—