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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Just transition is clearly a massive area. We will look at the subject more broadly, but we want to focus on Grangemouth as an illustration.

The committee has heard that we already have a fairly developed understanding of the skills that are required for the next five years of the transition. Do you agree with that? How confident are you that Scotland’s skills system will provide the necessary skills to the right extent and at the right time to meet the anticipated demand? I am asking about the short-term—the next five years.

I ask Gordon McGuinness from SDS to respond to that question first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Going back to your original reference to independence, if I have understood it correctly, I would just point out that the Scottish Government’s view is to try to stay aligned as much as possible with European Union regulations. You are therefore indicating that one eye should be on aligning and keeping pace with EU regulations. I was here when the companies were set up as they currently are, so I know that that was a concern—although it was disputed at the time. Are you suggesting that that is the bit that needs to be weighed up in some of this?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Will you set out on the record why the Scottish Government does not favour the option of unbundling the routes? What advantages do you see in keeping with the status quo in that regard?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Is that because you are focusing on resilience and reliability, which is what we have heard? We heard from our witnesses from Norway that innovation can come from unbundling. Do you believe that, as CMAL is the monopoly provider and CalMac is the operator, we have different market conditions and a different experience?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Islanders are telling us that they need reliability, but we are obviously seeing more cancellations because of the weather. What actions are you taking to mitigate changing weather? We know that stormier weather is coming through climate change and so on. What are you doing to mitigate weather pattern changes and rising sea levels as you procure new vessels and invest in harbour facilities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

—bearing in mind that you also have the issues that have already gone through in terms of alignment with the UK, and that the UK, also for reasons of trade with the EU, is fairly aligned with the EU in terms of subsidy issues. It will therefore be quite interesting to see how much scope there is even with the UK being outside the EU.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

But what improvements can be made? That is what I am trying to tease out.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I thank the witnesses for joining us this morning. Our inquiry is future facing and will inform the islands connectivity plan that is due. What role did CMAL play in project Neptune? Can you explore the issues that affected CMAL in relation to that project?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I want to explore what might happen. I do not want to put you in a difficult position, but it would be helpful for the committee to understand what the benefits and disbenefits would be if there was a merger between CMAL and CalMac Ferries. That would help us to understand some of the issues with that relationship and what a future relationship might look like.