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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

You also mentioned in your opening remarks the importance of building a resilient economy. You may be familiar with the committee’s report “Scotland’s Supply Chain”. We need to build a resilient supply chain not only so that it can withstand risks but so that we address issues such as embodied carbon, carbon miles, smart procurement and advanced manufacturing. We also need to create domestic supply chains that are shorter, greener and more resilient. Is that something that you will look at? If so, will you draw on the committee’s report when you do so?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

However, as a UK minister, you are responsible for all the United Kingdom, and it is clear that, on energy policy, the UK Government has a key power in relation to carbon capture, utilisation and storage. Is that the case?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I refer the minister to the report that the Scottish Parliament’s Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee produced last year on carbon capture, utilisation and storage. It had all-party support and it perhaps sets out the case in a stronger way than we have time to do today.

I will move on to the wider hydrogen economy. Clearly, Scotland and the UK have significant ambitions in that regard. We have heard that, to advance on the broader hydrogen economy, we will need further work on developing credible business cases to help to draw in the private investment that you talked about and to bring to market the various technologies that we require.

What is your view on that? What can be done and what is the UK doing to support the technology for hydrogen to reach maturity and attract the significant investment that is needed? There is an element of risk, so I suppose the question is: what is the UK prepared to do to help to move that market on?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Convener, I think that the minister’s connection has frozen again.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I welcome the fact that the economy and energy portfolios have been brought together. The consultation on the draft energy strategy and just transition plan closed yesterday. When do you expect to respond to the consultation? When will you publish the energy strategy and the just transition plan?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I very much appreciate your joining us today, minister. The issue of the Acorn cluster is critical, not only to Grangemouth, which is the subject of our inquiry, but to a just transition in the north of Scotland. You refer to maturity and infrastructure being key factors in your decision making. This project is the most mature and the most developed and it uses existing infrastructure. You make the argument that we cannot decarbonise Grangemouth without having the Acorn project and that, if we do not decarbonise Grangemouth, we will not meet our net zero targets. The third leg of that is that the Climate Change Committee has said that the UK and Scotland will not meet our net zero targets unless we have CCUS. That all leads to one place.

The issue then is the timescale, and you have talked about 2030. For Scotland to meet its targets, we need to start sooner than that. Will you be cognisant of the timing of this when talking to your colleague Lord Callanan about any final decisions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

The issue is around net zero targets for the UK, and you talked about 2030. For Scotland to meet its targets, we need to start on our carbon capture, utilisation and storage journey sooner than that. If that is the imperative, and the logic of your argument is that the Acorn project is well placed, will you, in your discussions with Lord Callanan—whom you said is the lead minister on this—emphasise that the timescale is critical to Scotland, and probably more so than to the rest of the UK, although it is critical to the UK as well?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

The renewables industry welcomed the draft, which focused on electricity. The criticism was that it was so broad that it captured everything that had been done to date. Previously, the strategy was about generation, so we should be in a position to look at what that means for delivery, surely. The draft talks a lot about potential, but will you assure us that the final strategy will be about delivery on that potential as opposed to a description of it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

We have finished on time, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

In our inquiry into a just transition, we have heard that there is a potential gap in jobs and skills, particularly for the supply chain. The contracts might not be realised for some time and we might not be able to scale up in time so, when demand emerges, it might have to be met internationally. There is a gap in the funding for the skills and jobs for the supply chain. How can that be filled?