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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I looked up a definition, which I have here. It says that

“Case law from 2014 notes that to have regard to a matter means simply that that matter must be specifically considered not that it must be given greater weight than other matters.”

Some stakeholders are coming to me and saying, “I don’t know what NatureScot is going to do with the code of practice.” I think that they need the explicit knowledge that everything that you write in it will be built with them and that it will also be what you follow.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

My second question is about legal resource within NatureScot. I had a figure that the recent intervention at the Loch Choire Estate cost you nearly £14,000. For clarity, if you are dealing with the numbers that we spoke about earlier, are you confident that you have the legal resource within NatureScot to deliver it all?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I agree with that. It is about making sure that there are no initial barriers. I am pleased that you are thinking about options. We have an incredible amount of talent out there and some experienced people.

Quite a lot of international guests come to Scotland. I do not know whether you can put it on record yet or whether you have thought about it, but I presume that we might be able to do something along the lines of allowing them to come and there being no need for them to do any further stuff, assuming they are accompanied by someone who is fit and competent by our law.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

This is quite a niche question. In our session with the previous panel, we asked about a situation in which a control scheme is in place and the land is being sold, and what the impact of that could be. I imagine that that will not come up much, but does anybody have any comments on whether that is the right approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

We had a wee discussion about authorisations in the earlier evidence session. Comments on sections 24 to 28 on authorisations, the impact of the provisions on deer management, the register of competence, one-off authorisations and emergency uses of authorisation would be very welcome.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay. That is fine.

Elena Whitham asked a good question. We talk a lot about the upland context, but we do not talk enough about the lowland context, which is much more problematic. If we want to achieve the reduction of deer numbers, for the purposes of nature restoration or whatever it is, we do not want to have barriers. Have you thought about having a referee scheme or a grandfather rights-type scheme for the fit and competent element that, at least in the interim, could help those in the sector to officiate one another until we can get an official standard? Do you know what that official thing will be?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Section 28 of the bill allows people to register as being authorised to carry out activities that require authorisation from NatureScot. In what cases would one-off authorisations outside the register be granted?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have to clip my little flock of sheep soon, and, a bit like that, it all seems just a wee bit woolly for me. It is about clarity and understanding. Earlier, you mentioned case studies and the code of practice. With regard to what restoration means for one holding and then the holding next to it, and so on, will you give that guarantee that you will put not just case studies but clear guidance with the code of practice and work with the sector to ensure that we know what it means?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have a couple of final questions. The first is around the business and regulatory impact assessment, or BRIA. I have not yet seen one or found one. Do you know whether that has been done or is being done? When we might see that?