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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

I get that you think that the protections are robust, but all the evidence that we have heard suggests that many others do not think that they are. What are your thoughts on changing that?

To go back to the question that I inadvertently asked earlier, you consulted last year on adapting and improving the habitat regulations. That consultation had two elements: one was around creating more flexibility to designate a site based on an ecosystem or habitat approach, and the other was about encouraging more proactive management. What did you learn from the consultation? You have not brought anything into the bill from that consultation, so what came out of it that led you to instead move to take this broad power?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

You could define regression within the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

This is an interesting conversation. I appreciate your putting on record that the aim is not to take away the protections that we have in place but to enable further movement on biodiversity or climate change. The convener made a point about the risk. You keep setting out the four areas in the bill, but if the bill had only one of those, such as net zero or climate, is there is a risk that your Government or a future Government could say, “My aims for climate override my aims for that particular habitat”? Do you see that the approach could be quite broad if, for example, we were talking about onshore or offshore wind?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

So, it is purely about that flexibility.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Minister, you are right to say that there is a fair bit of good will out there at the moment. However—and this follows on from Mark Ruskell’s question—we have heard in evidence that there is a bit of uncertainty about the vagueness of the phrase “nature restoration”. How do you intend the guidance to give clarity about what that means and in what circumstances it might be used?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

My understanding of the bill is that NatureScot must “have regard to” the code of practice. There have been some queries about whether that is a fair or strong enough term. What are your thoughts on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

I am conscious of the time, but I want to quickly touch on an issue. My understanding is that, if there is a control scheme in place, it is registered against the title to the land. We have heard in evidence that that could potentially create a burden on the land, which would transfer if it were sold. Have you given any thought to the potential effects on land value and marketability?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Rather than go down the non-regression route, REACH offers a slightly different route, which has a very clearly defined scope for the core aims and protected provisions and how the powers can be used. What is your current thinking about how you might adapt that part of the bill to better reflect the evidence that we have heard?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Sorry. My problem is that I skipped a question because you brought me in earlier, convener, on question 8. I retract the question that I asked and will come back to it in about an hour’s time.