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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

It is not a matter of deficiencies in the existing scheme. The EU scheme was based on risks for the EU. Now, we are bringing in this legislation at a GB level—the fees are related to Scotland, but the SI is at a GB level. Therefore, with regard to the risk assessment, although the methodology is very similar, the risks that we face in GB are different from the risks that are faced by the EU. For example, there are many citrus fruit growers in the EU. We do not grow citrus fruits in the UK, so the risk assessment on those products would be different in GB. It is not a matter of efficiencies; it is a matter of making appropriate checks for the risks that we have here.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

Yes—citrus fruits are a practical example. My officials can give you more examples. We do not grow citrus fruit crops in the UK because we do not have a commercial interest in them, so importing citrus plants, for example, would not present a risk to our commercial agriculture. Those would be considered a lower-risk product, whereas products that we grow here as part of our commercial agriculture would be considered a higher risk. We do not need the same level of checks on citrus plants as a country that grows them as a commercial product.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

I will need to get my officials to go into the detail of any specific figure, but the principle is that we understand the risks on the basis of where things are coming from. For example, if we were importing from a country that we know has good plant health controls and where crops such as barley are not infected by a particular pathogen, we would not do as many inspections. However, if a plant or plant material was coming from a country that we know contains that pathogen and that does not have the standards of plant health checks and inspection that we would expect, we would need to increase our inspections to ensure our biosecurity.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

I will let my officials answer the second question. On the first question, as I said to Alasdair Allan, it depends on where items are coming from. If items are coming from a country that has good plant health security and that is not affected by a known pathogen, we can safely reduce the level of checks. If plant material is coming from a country where we know there is a pathogen and there is a risk to our crops, we will increase the level of checks. That allows us to be flexible and dynamic and to use our resources to prevent those higher risks.

On the second question, perhaps my officials can give some examples.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

I am sure that the answer to your first question is in the frameworks that Caspian Richards has just described. Those frameworks describe how the four nations of the UK work together. I am not sure what the instrument is for parliamentary scrutiny.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

That is my understanding.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

I do not know the answer to that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

The fees structure is intended to cover just the costs, and, where reduced inspections are required, that means a reduced cost. The fees are not a money-making mechanism. If we have to use fewer resources doing fewer checks, we do not need to charge as much.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

I will hand over to the officials on that one.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Lorna Slater

It is my understanding that that is the case.