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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Lorna Slater

I am interested in the criteria that were used to choose those bodies, particularly for the shorter list.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Lorna Slater

Brilliant. Thank you very much.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Lorna Slater

I have a quick question about the metrics and so forth that Daniel Johnson spoke about. One of our witnesses was clear that it is hard to assess not only the data that already exists on community wealth building but also how progress might be measured, because there is no data collection. Are ministers and officials open to putting data collection requirements into the guidance or the bill? Whatever we end up deciding to measure, there will need to be obligations to collect data on those metrics so that we can track progress.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill (UK Parliament Legislation)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

It concerns me also that there appears to be a creeping rolling back of devolution. Each piece of legislation, such as this bill, does not seem so bad by itself, but the accumulation means that the powers of the Scottish Parliament to diverge and to put in place our own legislation to protect Scotland’s environment are absolutely being restricted. I share your frustrations on this. I would like to feed back to the Scottish Government that I certainly support it pushing back harder on protecting Scottish devolution. The direction of travel is very worrying to me.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

Morven, do you have anything to add?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

My second question builds on an issue that Matt Pearce has already spoken about—that of who else should be on the list of organisations that should be around the table. I am interested to hear everyone’s thoughts on that. In particular, I am interested in why some people need to be around the table.

During our evidence sessions, we have been told that some people need to be at the table because they own the assets—they own chunks of land—or because they have significant procurement powers. That is the case with the national health service, for example.

Matt, could you give an overview on why certain organisations need to be around the table? After that, I would love to hear from everyone on whether we have the right people on those lists and who else should be on those lists.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you. Morven, do you have anything to add?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

Councillor Macgregor, I will pick up on a point that you made about Business Gateway, given that you are familiar with it. I have heard from stakeholders that Business Gateway cannot support and mainstream social enterprises, co-operatives and other more democratic business models as much as people would hope. If people are trying to start such an organisation, Business Gateway does not necessarily have the tools to support them. Is that true or is that not your experience?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

Does anyone else have a view on who should be around the table?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Lorna Slater

On that point, we have heard from other witnesses that the financial pillar is often the most difficult of the community wealth building pillars to address. Is there anything that the Scottish Government should do, or that should be included in the bill, to increase the capacity of such financial players to be involved?