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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Colleges (Support)

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Sue Webber

I have always been impressed by the work that is being done in our colleges. Those institutions are critical to the economic and social wellbeing of our country—for the development of a skilled workforce that is able to respond to new requirements and new opportunities in industries; for opportunities for people of all abilities to develop skills for life; and for successfully widening access to opportunities, including higher education.

As James Withers said,

“Scotland has all the ingredients of a world class education and skills system. And no ingredient is more important than our colleges ... It has never been more important to unlock the full potential of all our people.”

One third of our college students come from Scotland’s most deprived communities, which, put simply, means that colleges deliver education and skills development to parts of Scotland that other institutions just do not reach—that sounds like an advert. Their role as a catalyst for economic development is underplayed, too.

The SNP’s chronic underfunding of Scotland’s colleges has forced them into a precarious financial position, which impacts their ability to support learners and grow the economy.

Earlier this year, colleges, businesses and trade unions joined together to call on the Scottish Government to reinstate a vital training fund before it was deleted from the 2024-25 budget. The flexible workforce development fund has previously provided businesses with access to training and upskilling for staff, delivered through colleges and other partners. We heard in February that, if the £10 million fund is not reinstated, potentially more than 2,000 employers and 45,450 learners will miss out on training opportunities—what a tragedy.

I want to raise an issue about modern apprenticeships as a whole. Based on the SSVQ’s calculations, those people who are studying for a modern apprenticeship qualification in Scotland receive considerably less funding per head than those who do so in England. A barbering apprentice receives only £2,700, compared to £9,000 south of the border; a hospitality apprentice receives only half of what their counterpart in England receives. I understand that budgets are tight, but I hope that the minister can reiterate in his closing remarks why such a disparity in funding exists. Where on earth is Scotland’s apprenticeship levy money going?

The Education, Children and Young People Committee’s report on college regionalisation noted concern over a lack of overarching strategic direction from the Scottish Government. The report states:

“The Committee is concerned that colleges are currently making decisions to respond to the challenging financial climate without clear overarching strategic direction from the Scottish Government as to their purpose and what they must prioritise ... As such, colleges are being asked to take decisions for the future, uncertain as to whether those decisions will be compatible with the Scottish Government’s vision.”

There were many other recommendations in the report, and I am very aware that the minister is aware of those recommendations, given that he was a member of the committee and helped to draft them, and given that the report was agreed unanimously.

Although I recognise the financial constraints that the Scottish Government is working within, the Scottish Government and the Scottish Funding Council must acknowledge the significant needs of the college sector and urgently take action to ensure that more capital investment can be levered into the sector.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Sue Webber

To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to support NHS Lothian in reducing the CAMHS waiting lists across the region. (S6O-03397)

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

We will move straight to questions from members. Liam Kerr will kick off.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

Who would like to take that? If you are not in a position to answer, you can just say so. That is fine.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

We come to questions from Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you for allowing that, Mr Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

My next question follows on from the theme of standards. Some of the respondents were unclear about how public bodies’ compliance and accountability processes would work in practice with the legislation and any sanctions that they might face. Comunn na Gàidhlig—I hope that my pronunciation is right—questioned whether a Government agency would be critical of the Scottish Government in meeting those aims. How might the legislation address some of those points?

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

Perhaps I did not mean reporting. I am more interested in the sanctions that will be applied if people are not fulfilling their obligations.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

I understand that. I was wondering what the reasons were for not having such a body, but that is fine—we can move on. Liam Kerr has a supplementary question before we move to Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Sue Webber

I have jumped ahead of myself. We now come to Bill Kidd for some questions.