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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Matthew, can you follow on from that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Might things be delayed because of the pressures on teaching staff and their diary management that arise from having to hold multidisciplinary team meetings? Arranging partnership meetings might be a challenge, as health professionals are equally pressed for time. Susan, how do we square the need to get people trained, which takes them out of contact time, with the pressure to have those planning meetings?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

The argument would be that, if 37 per cent of all pupils have additional support needs, teachers will come across pupils with those needs and, therefore, that training should be part of their compulsory training.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I understand that.

I will bring in Matthew Cavanagh. A number of colleagues have supplementary questions on this issue, but we will see where Matthew takes the discussion.

11:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I will bring in Liam Kerr for a supplementary question and then Willie Rennie. Perhaps you can direct your questions to panel members who have not yet responded on this issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I am sorry, Susan, but Mike Corbett, Peter Bain and Sylvia Haughney want to come in on my original question about the mandatory nature and frequency of training. I will bring in Mike first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I thank Peter Bain for those closing remarks, and I thank all the witnesses for their evidence this morning. We could have gone on for much longer, as you could sense.

We plan to take further evidence in the inquiry later this month and in our meetings in early March. We will then produce a report that is based on what we have heard, with recommendations for the Scottish Government.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings today.

12:14 Meeting continued in private until 12:51.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

That is very convenient. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Who would like to go first?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

We have spoken about the presumption of mainstreaming. How is that understood by the parent population? How is it implemented in schools, particularly in those with additional support for learning hubs? Here, in Edinburgh, there is currently an issue whereby parents are being told that their children cannot go to schools with enhanced support bases because the council has made a decision to roll out additional support provision to every school. Again, the issue is communication. How is the duty on mainstreaming understood and implemented on the ground so that parents understand what is happening in schools?

My second question is about the flexibility provided by hybrid models, which Peter Bain mentioned. I have heard that such flexibility is not being offered, whereas it should be if we are to allow as many people as possible to take part in education. Will you comment on that?