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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

This might have been covered on day 1, so I am sorry if it has. We have heard a lot about what happens if an existing councillor or a serving councillor has an offence, but what happens to stop them from standing in the first place? That would be out of your hands, would it not?

Meeting of the Parliament

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

—and that is something that my party cannot support.

On 17 July 2024, the shadow transport secretary, Helen Whately, described nationalisation as

“a move that can only be based in ideology”,

and said—[Interruption.]

Meeting of the Parliament

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

She said that

“Nationalising well-run operators won’t bring fares down or make services more reliable”.

Furthermore, Rail Partners, which represents the interests of private sector train and freight operators, has argued that

“full nationalisation is a political not a practical solution, which will increase costs over time”.

Meeting of the Parliament

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

The Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill would remove the presumption in favour of franchised passenger railway services being provided by the private sector and would instead allow train operations to be provided by a public sector company when existing franchise contracts end.

Clause 1 would prohibit the Secretary of State for Transport or the Scottish ministers from extending existing rail franchises or entering into new franchise agreements, apart from in specific limited circumstances. It would also remove the presumption in favour of franchised railway passenger services being provided by a private operator. Instead, these will be provided by a public sector company, under a public sector contract.

Clause 2 would place a duty on the relevant franchising authority to provide or secure passenger rail services by giving a direct award to a public sector company. The secretary of state would also have the power to extend existing franchises or to agree new franchises with the same private sector operator as currently operates the service.

Clause 3 would give the secretary of state the regulation-making powers to make consequential amendments, including to primary legislation.

Ultimately, the aim of the bill is to bring all rail franchises into public hands—

Meeting of the Parliament

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

My party believes that the bill would have a detrimental effect on Scottish travellers who rely on key cross-border services such as Avanti West Coast. It would also limit competition. Cut-price rail providers such as Lumo, which planned, over the summer, to provide an increased east coast mainline service from Edinburgh Waverley to London King’s Cross, and which also hopes to expand through to the west in Glasgow, could be prevented from providing such a service once the franchise ends.

Finally, and more importantly, the legislation would tie the hands of Scottish ministers and compel them to keep ScotRail and the Caledonian sleeper in public ownership.

17:02  

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

In Scotland, classroom standards are plummeting and violence is rising. Teacher numbers are declining, secure full-time posts are scarce, and cuts to school hours and assistant numbers are at risk. Currie community high school parent council is writing to the City of Edinburgh Council to express its deep concern regarding the proposed cuts to additional support needs services in our education community. It states that the cuts could significantly affect the quality of education and support for those students who rely on ASN services and wider learners.

Foreign aid is reserved and public cash should be spent at home rather than abroad. Does the cabinet secretary agree that the Scottish Government should be prioritising the education of Scotland’s young people first?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Sue Webber

To ask the Scottish Government whether the £12.5 million of funding that it plans to provide for education in Malawi, Rwanda and Zambia was set out in the budget for 2024-25. (S6O-03872)

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

Bill Kidd. I am sorry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

When, and how frequently, does the Government use its powers of direction to the inspectorate right now? We have had some evidence on that. The cabinet secretary referred to impartiality. Some people have suggested that the inspectorate should report to Parliament rather than to ministers. Does the cabinet secretary envisage similar levels of direction under the new arrangements?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy, over to you.