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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Legal Right to Recovery

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Sue Webber

Now that the member is part of the Government, can she tell us how many more residential rehab beds will be made available this year?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Legal Right to Recovery

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Sue Webber

That was quite a question, given that I have only four minutes. Although drug deaths are rising, the number of people who are convicted of drug offences has continued to decline, so I will carry on with my speech.

Rather than just softening the rules for drug dealers, the SNP should focus on guaranteeing treatment for anyone who needs it. Decriminalising class A drugs by the back door will help only drug dealers, who are ruining our communities, and that extreme move by the SNP will do nothing to save lives.

The answer to our drug deaths crisis is complex, and increasing the treatment that is available to those who need it should be at the heart of it. Anne-Marie Ward, chief executive of Faces & Voices of Recovery, has said that we have to be very clear

“not to view this as a silver bullet. This move will help but ultimately, it will not help people to get well on its own. It will not save lives on its own. It has to be accompanied by increasing access to treatment and rehabilitation or nothing will change.”

This week, I met Jay Haston from the WAVE Trust. He is a former drug addict and he said that the decriminalisation of drugs will not fix the root cause of Scotland’s drug deaths problem, because all that it does is put yet another

“plaster on top of an already bleeding plaster”,

and that, now,

“everybody is having a party in the street”,

because people from all walks of life are no longer scared to carry drugs.

On Monday, I visited Waverley Care. As Stuart McMillan said, we need more funding for third sector organisations that directly help people in such situations. In Glasgow, Waverley Care is helping vulnerable women, often victims of domestic abuse, who are caught in a cycle of drug use and broader health harm. It is a person-centred service, which is flexible in responding to an individual’s needs and enables them to escape the harm that is caused by drugs. We need more of that.

I urge everyone to back the Scottish Conservatives’ right to recovery bill, which would guarantee treatment or rehabilitation for anyone who needs it. Today, all we are asking for is time to be set aside to debate the matter in full.

Scotland’s drug crisis is the SNP’s shame. We need to see access to rehabilitation, not dangerous drug decriminalisation. Former Strathclyde Police Chief Superintendent, Tom Buchan, said:

“Talk about abject surrender … it should worry everyone. It shames us as a country.”

I support the Conservative motion from my colleague Sandesh Gulhane.

16:41  

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Legal Right to Recovery

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Sue Webber

Last week, the SNP announced that it was effectively decriminalising all class A drugs, including heroin, meth and crack cocaine. The possession of class A drugs is a serious offence, and that is the biggest shift in drugs policy in years, as my colleagues have said today. Normally, the Scottish Government is quick to consult and we cannot move for consultations, but on that, there was nothing—no debate until today and no stakeholder involvement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

Thank you, Derek, for your hard work in producing the report, which has been the subject of much discussion in Parliament already. We have seen the plans for a national care service. The idea has expanded quite rapidly since you carried out the review. Given what we have heard today, do you think that the larger remit could lead to the required social care reforms in the adult sector taking longer, and can we afford to wait that long?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Social Care Finance Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

If you do not want me to ask the question, I can—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

I am sorry, but it might not be that short.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

Okay. My question is about the challenges with commissioning and procurement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Social Care Finance Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

I am sorry, convener, but my question is more generic. What does the panel think of COSLA’s comments that the consultation

“cuts through the heart of governance in Scotland”

and will

“have serious implications for Local Government”.

Perhaps Leigh Johnston from Audit Scotland can respond first.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Social Care Finance Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

I am aware of the time, convener—I was just asking about finance in general.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Social Care Finance Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Sue Webber

I was just seeking the panel’s thoughts on the consultation.