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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

Minister, you said that your intention is to increase spending on social care during the current parliamentary session by 25 per cent. Where is that money coming from? There could be up to £1 billion in so-called new money from national insurance consequentials. Is the intention that that money will be ring fenced? Will it be over and above that 25 per cent?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

Can I move on to commissioning now, or are we still on workforce? Sorry, but there is such an overflow of questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

Minister, you have mentioned the issue of workforce retention and recruitment. With a quarter of staff in the care sector leaving within the first three months of joining an organisation, what more can be done to stop that from happening and to keep those people in their roles?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

That is fine—thank you.

We have heard you speak about the ethical commissioning of care, and we also know that, sadly, services are commissioned and people are almost shoehorned into what is available and what services are there, rather than services being developed for them. How can we turn commissioning on its head to make the individual the centre of decision making?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

I am leading on the next theme, on commissioning, so I will not drill down any further, but I have one more question—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

I have one more question on the workforce. Is that okay? It is a very quick one.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Sue Webber

I have a couple of things to ask you, minister. Thanks very much for coming along. It is nice to meet your team face to face at last.

You spoke about discussions with COSLA. When you are doing that procurement and commissioning exercise, is there scope to include minimum pay and terms and conditions? Could that be built into the procurement and commissioning of services to allow us to help the workforce on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Audit Scotland Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 10 May 2022

Sue Webber

You mentioned that we must change the way that we deliver our health and social care while maintaining access to services. You have also said that you and John Burns are still discussing how the recovery plans will demonstrate ambition for reform, but that there is still a lot to do on cementing milestones for that delivery plan. As you said, it has been 8 months since the Scottish Government published the recovery plan. What is your assessment of progress, if any has been made, since its publication?

We all understand that there is no quick fix, but the daily statistics on accident and emergency, cancer, delayed discharges and diagnosis are bleak. Is the plan working? What confidence can we have in it?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Audit Scotland Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 10 May 2022

Sue Webber

You mentioned that the NHS is under pressure; we know that. However, it is always under some form of pressure, and it was always under pressure during all the years that I worked in that environment before coming to Parliament.

The Audit Scotland report notes that

“There is not enough detail in the plan to determine whether ambitions can be achieved in the timescales set out.”

Given the scale and complexity of the challenges that face Scotland’s NHS, do you agree that much greater detail is needed if we are to get the NHS back on an even keel?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Audit Scotland Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 10 May 2022

Sue Webber

Retention, which you mentioned and which we have talked about at length, is the key issue. According to damning research by the Royal College of Midwives, midwifery is at breaking point. Three out of four RCM members in Scotland are considering leaving their posts, while 88 per cent are reported to be experiencing work-related stress. NHS boards are being encouraged to optimise the retention of midwives, but midwives tell us that the profession continues to be in crisis. What immediate action is the Scottish Government taking to respond to midwives’ concerns right now, and to improve retention rates and midwives’ health and wellbeing?