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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

The committees are “loaded”—in inverted commas—with members of the Parliament who support the Government. There is no mechanism in place for Opposition members to challenge a bill that we feel should not be introduced and do the very thing that you are talking about.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

I think that someone else might have a question on that, but you can pick that up now if you want.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

It is better to achieve something than nothing—that is quite brutal language. Cristina, do you want to come in?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

That is helpful.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

My question leads on from what we have just spoken about in relation to the culture in the Scottish Parliament and how that has perhaps shaped our convener role a bit differently from how the role is shaped in other legislatures. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the Scottish Parliament’s conveners?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

You touched earlier on some of the questions that I want to ask. How do we, in here, seem to be relevant to what is going on out there? That is my big thing, because the disconnect between people and politicians is vast. We have talked about workload and time management, and we have heard a lot of evidence about the shortcomings of the legislation that comes to committees, which can lead to 400 or 500 amendments being lodged, as we have just seen with the Education (Scotland) Bill.

If a draft bill does not really appear to achieve its aims, might it be better to reject it at the outset? Do you get a sense that the Government is introducing bills for the sake of legislating? Sometimes it is better to be lean. How can we address some of those challenges through the process of amendment, if that makes sense?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

Does anyone else want to come in on that?

10:15  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

We are on three committees sometimes.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

No, carry on—it is fine.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Sue Webber

My next question is about the balance between having career conveners and the opportunity for a convenership to be a career stepping stone. In some of the churn that we have referred to, when conveners from the governing party are moved into ministerial roles, one might perhaps challenge that they have been rewarded with that ministerial role because they have defended the position of Government very well in their role as convener. How does that connect with the esteem associated with holding the role of convener? I am interested in your thoughts on that.

Maybe Tom Caygill can answer that question first, and then Ken Hughes can come in.