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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

We visited Polmont two or three days after the first use of soft cuffs. The roll-out of that method of restraint is progress, as it is less painful. Do you seek to make a pain-free method of restraint standard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, minister. I call Stephanie Callaghan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

Obviously, there has been quite a lot of press coverage and public outcry on issues around the sentencing guidelines for people of that age. Do you have any comments on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

Okay—over to you Mr Rooney.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

Okay—convenient.

The committee also heard from Social Work Scotland that the bill has the “right aspirations and goals” but, due to resource issues impacting social work, there is

“a lack of confidence about our ability to deliver.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 April 2023; c 19.]

That is on the same theme as the questioning from Mr Kerr. How will the Scottish Government support local authorities and their social work teams to implement the bill effectively?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

The committee heard from Social Work Scotland that it is “almost inconceivable” that police custody will not have to be used for under-18s—this is the important line—

“for a number of years to come.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 26 April 2023; c 39.]

How would you respond to that point? Will local authorities be expected to use secure care as an alternative to custody? If so, what are the cost implications of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

We will now go back to questions from Bob Doris.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

If I may come back to you, Ms Nolan, does that mean that we can foresee that police custody will be used for under-18s for a number of years to come?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

Let us move on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Sue Webber

The Scottish Sentencing Council has guidelines for sentencing our young people. They apply to a young person who is under the age of 25 at the time of entering a guilty plea or when they are found guilty of an offence. There have been some cases recently. Were those guidelines considered when the bill was drafted? If so, why does the bill not go further to provide consistency with regard to the age of a young person in the criminal justice system?