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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I will bring in Liam Kerr for a supplementary question and then Willie Rennie. Perhaps you can direct your questions to panel members who have not yet responded on this issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I am sorry, Susan, but Mike Corbett, Peter Bain and Sylvia Haughney want to come in on my original question about the mandatory nature and frequency of training. I will bring in Mike first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I thank Peter Bain for those closing remarks, and I thank all the witnesses for their evidence this morning. We could have gone on for much longer, as you could sense.

We plan to take further evidence in the inquiry later this month and in our meetings in early March. We will then produce a report that is based on what we have heard, with recommendations for the Scottish Government.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings today.

12:14 Meeting continued in private until 12:51.  

Meeting of the Parliament

National Health Service Dentistry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

The cabinet secretary speaks about the preventative agenda being foremost in his thoughts, but how can dental treatment be preventative when there are two years between check-up appointments? Much can change in that time.

Meeting of the Parliament

National Health Service Dentistry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Two years ago, the Scottish Conservatives held a debate called “Preventing the Collapse of NHS Dentistry in Scotland”. Two years on from that debate, NHS outcomes in Scotland have worsened, waiting times for all sorts of NHS treatment have increased, and here we are explaining that dentistry has got no better in that time.

It is clear that the SNP Government has failed to do what is necessary to restore NHS dentistry activity levels to pre-pandemic rates. That raises further concerns that rural and more deprived areas are likely to suffer disproportionately from negative oral health as a result. Indeed, 90 per cent of respondents to a recent BDA survey said that they believe that oral health inequalities in Scotland are on the rise.

Oral health can tell us a lot about our general health. Regular monitoring identifies and deals with problems early—not just oral issues but oral cancers. We heard from Willie Rennie about the catastrophic effect that late presentations can have on survival. There are also bacterial and fungal infections that can cause sepsis, and gum disease is linked to a higher risk of heart disease and dementia, both of which cause a disproportionate number of deaths in Scotland.

However, dentistry is becoming harder to access, with waiting times increasing. The 2023 BDA survey of general dental practitioners showed that nearly 60 per cent had reduced the amount of NHS work that they undertook since lockdown, and four in five said that they plan to reduce their commitment further in the year ahead. All the while, patient numbers are increasing. Dental practices are abandoning the NHS in droves for private practice, leaving many Scots without an NHS dentist. Failure to act risks sparking an exodus from the workforce that will leave families across Scotland losing access to NHS dentistry for good.

Many Scots are not having dental treatment, with almost half of the people registered with an NHS dentist in Scotland not having seen a dentist in the past two years and 1.2 million people not having had a dental examination or treatment in five years. The crisis in access to NHS dentistry in Scotland has resulted in many desperate patients taking matters into their own hands with DIY dentistry, or heading overseas for care, as we have heard from many members. Hearing that people are resorting to putting Super Glue on their dentures should be a wake-up call to all of us.

It is worrying that, on the number of children who have seen a dentist in the past two years, the gap between the most deprived and the least deprived children has widened. In 2021, 55 per cent of the most deprived children had seen a dentist, compared with 73 per cent of the least deprived children; in September 2022, that percentage had risen, and 56 per cent of children from the most deprived backgrounds had seen a dentist in the past two years, compared with 76 per cent of the least deprived children.

Let us remember that NHS dentistry in Scotland was in crisis long before Covid hit, so the SNP must get a grip on the situation and bring forward a credible plan to restore routine dental care and tackle the enormous backlog. I said earlier that Robert Donald, who is the chair of the BDA’s Scottish council, has warned that there could be a “wholesale exodus” of the profession from the NHS if ministers fail to make a “serious long-term commitment” to the sector.

For too long now, people have gone without access to full NHS dental services. To tackle that unprecedented challenge, dental practices need support from the Scottish Government. The new cabinet secretary, Mr Gray, and the SNP must offer more solutions. Healthcare staff and patients have been repeatedly let down.

The recovery plan is not fit for purpose. We want a plan that is clear to deliver a modern and efficient local NHS. For dentistry specifically, that means an end to drill and fill; it means the prioritisation of prevention, and a plan that reflects modern dentistry.

16:41  

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Sue Webber

To ask the Scottish Government what its response is to the most recent “Police Scotland Officer & Staff Numbers” statistics showing the number of police officers in Police Scotland’s Edinburgh division. (S6O-03078)

Meeting of the Parliament

Minimum Unit Pricing of Alcohol

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Sue Webber

I will go back to an evidence-led approach, Deputy First Minister. The evidence from the Scottish Government’s feedback report is stark, and indicates that MUP has had a “negative impact” on those people who are dependent on alcohol.

The Scottish Government has until 30 September to consider mitigations for that group. The clock is already ticking. The Government’s report says only that it continues to

“consider how it can provide support”.

What mitigations are being planned and/or considered to help that group, which will be further harmed?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Sue Webber

Since the Scottish National Party Government decided to merge Scotland’s police forces into one, that action has had a devastating impact on the visible footprint of police officers in our communities. Despite the cabinet secretary’s response, in the Edinburgh police division alone, there has been a drop of 76 officers, which is a loss of more than one in 20 officers in just over a decade. It is no wonder that recorded violent crime in Edinburgh has increased by 10 per cent in the past year alone. Why has the SNP Government left our hard-working police officers to fend for themselves in the face of rising violent crime?

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Sue Webber

The priorities of the Labour administration in Edinburgh are not aligned with the priorities of residents across the capital. Rather than focusing on essential road repairs and fixing the multitude of potholes on our streets, it is hell-bent on pursuing pipe-dream projects. Wasting £44 million on a business case for a Granton to BioQuarter tram extension should not be a priority. The project would also destroy a popular and well-used active travel corridor in Roseburn. In addition, the capital now has the prestigious honour of being number 1 in the world for having the worst cycle lanes. I make a plea to the minister: will you use every piece of influence that you have to ensure that the priorities of residents in Edinburgh are put first by the Labour-led council?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Sue Webber

There will be a division.

For

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)

Against

Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP)