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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
An advanced stage.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
Perhaps you could provide us with some timelines, just for assurance and so that we get a sense that there is progress. There is an appetite for the process to be modernised and brought up to date, but not everything is changing at the pace that the public and members might want to see, so we are looking for a bit of assurance.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
I understand that, minister. I know you well.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
I apologise for that language.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
You will not be forcing them, kicking and screaming.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
Sticking with the Scottish Government element, section 13 of the bill proposes to repeal section 52 of FOISA, which is sometimes colloquially referred to as the First Minister’s veto power. Many of those who were consulted view the veto power as unnecessary and contrary to the principle of openness that underpins freedom of information.
What evidence or examples of how late compliance with that decision—Oh, goodness! I am getting all mixed up. I do not need to ask you that—my apologies. My questions for the different sets of witnesses are split, and I am getting a bit confused.
Let us move on to failure to comply with notices. I do not need to ask you about the veto—
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
Yes, you might want to comment on the First Minister’s veto being repealed. Do you think that is a good thing?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
Oh, it is a very live issue. Please carry on.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
It is not just about you, as an organisation, having that clout; it is about having the law to support that.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 November 2025
Sue Webber
That will be good.
Section 13 of the bill proposes the repeal of section 52 of FOISA, which is sometimes referred to colloquially as the First Minister’s veto. I think that you oppose that. Most of the consultees who responded said that the veto power is unnecessary, and we heard that it has never been used and is contrary to the principles of openness that underpin FOISA. Why does the Scottish Government believe that it should be retained, even in a limited form? What risks would arise if the power was repealed?