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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 May 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

Are there any other comments?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am sorry to interrupt, but did the Defence Committee decide to look at the impact of climate change on warfare, or was that something that a previous committee had highlighted as being something that should be considered? What I am getting at is this: has any committee successfully sown the seeds of a future inquiry?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is signposting rather than making it a requirement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. Does anyone else have any comments? Having put that big question out there, I am not going to close down the discussion.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is fair to point out that, certainly in the House of Commons, bill committees are whipped.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

There has been a great deal of discussion about the broad range of people who have an interest in the bill. We have heard about the ability of people to sit on a board at the age of 16. We know from the correspondence and other submissions that the committee has received that there is huge interest in this area.

The people who sit at the heart of the bill are children and young people. They are the people who will be assessed and whose lifetime chances will be dictated by the doors that open and close between the end of what we call formal education and their university or college years.

We are now discussing a learner interest committee, the provisions on which require to be amended to ensure that children and young people—the very learners who are interested in this matter—will be on that committee. It is disappointing that that is the case in a Parliament that passed the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Act 2024 and a Parliament in which members have spoken on many occasions about the importance of lived experience and the challenges that our young people and children face.

Amendment 226 is a simple two-line amendment that would ensure that children and young people are represented on the learner interest committee. That does not mean there should be a potential further requirement for those children to be undertaking, or have recent experience of undertaking, a qualifications Scotland qualification, because I know that a significantly large number of children undertake no qualifications and their input might be interesting and incredibly valuable.

It is important for many, many reasons that we address the challenge—as it seems to be for this Scottish Government and Parliament—to open up and welcome being required to give young people access to decisions that are being made about them. Not only would they be listened to, but they would be at the table when decisions about them are being made.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

I welcome that intervention and whole-heartedly agree, which is why I referred to the challenge that is posed by restricting it to those who have recent experience of undertaking qualifications. That person who stays quiet at the back of the class and knows how to turn in on themselves in order to avoid confronting challenges or being asked difficult questions is the very person who should sit on a learner interest committee, as they can say why it is challenging.

The committee’s format, and the outreach to young people, have to be appropriate. It cannot involve sitting around in a committee room such as the one we are in and saying, “Well, what do you think of it?” That is a challenge, but we have the pedagogical and social skills to interact and engage with young people to get the very best from them. Hopefully, their contribution will be more than just five seconds—it might take longer than that to make it happen, but it is important that we listen to them.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

The requirements relating to regulation of educational qualifications and public sector governance are alternatives in your amendment, rather than a build-on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

Unusually, at stage 2 proceedings—I will not say uniquely, but it is certainly rare—an opportunity has arisen for consensus on a route forward, if not on a destination. It would be helpful if space for that was created by all of those who have lodged amendments in this group. Does the member agree with that?