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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Would you go as far as to say that it would add not just strength but legitimacy?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

In a sense, proportionality has been reached in your committee in that all but one of the parties’ voices are around the table, but the proportionality that you need for the voting balance is not a problem for your committee. I am not inquiring as to your committee’s internal workings, but has the fact that the issues will not come down to a vote assisted in the environment that the committee is working in?

10:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Can I draw just us back to—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

So, members would get an insight into not just why an individual was interested in that committee, but also—you have described this eloquently—the process and the approach, and the empathy, that they would bring as convener. In that way, members would understand, even before the committee started, the sort of committee that it would be, and you think that that would be to the benefit of both the chamber and the wider audience.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee in 2025. We have received apologies from Ruth Maguire, and I welcome Rona Mackay, who is attending as a committee substitute.

The first agenda item is a decision on whether to take in private agenda item 3, which will be a discussion of the evidence that we are going to hear today. Do members agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I remind people—very early in this committee meeting—that I am conscious of the time.

To address the point that you have raised, Willie, about the separation between legislative scrutiny and inquiry scrutiny in other Parliaments, do you think that it would be possible for the same members to sit with two different hats on in two different committees? A committee could sit as a legislative committee, where there would be one view, but, separately and distinctly, it could sit as an inquiry committee. It could be the same people, in the same room and in the same slot, but a different role could be identified for the two meetings. Might that aid what you have talked about in relation to leaving hat, rosette and club at the door?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is a good answer. How about you, Ross?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is nice to lift the lid on the dark actions that happen behind the scenes. That will bring me to another issue, but, before I get to that, I will ask something else.

This committee inquiry does not look specifically at the distribution of committees and the choice that happens right at the start, but that is an interesting aspect. You mentioned education, Douglas. Willie, what is the most important committee from the Scottish Liberal Democrat point of view?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is good.

I want to go back to the topic of this particular set of questions, which is conveners and whether there would be any advantage in electing them. Very foolishly, I now seem to have two parts to my closed question, but I would like some closed answers to it.

The first part is simple: would a convener have additional value if they were elected by the chamber? I am not talking about altering how parties choose their conveners or the discussions that Douglas Ross referred to with regard to parties choosing committees; it would be about the mechanics of conveners being elected by the chamber rather than how they are chosen at the moment—I will just put the lid back down on the dark parts of that. Would such an approach give conveners enhanced value or enhanced power, and—this is now a three-part question—would it assist with the cohesion in a committee if its members and the convener knew that they were there because of an election that was open to the chamber, if I can use the word “chamber” for the moment?

Does anyone want to kick off with that instead of our constantly going along the line in the same direction? I see that everyone has put their heads down—this is like primary school.

09:45  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I know that this sounds very rude, and I have no intention of being rude—