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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Yes, we can hear you now.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Item 2 is the inquiry that we are doing on future parliamentary procedure and practice. For this evidence session, we are joined by Dr Ruth Fox, who is a director of the Hansard Society. Ruth Fox is responsible for the strategic direction and performance of the society and leads on its research programmes. We are also joined by Professor Meg Russell from University College London. Meg Russell is professor of British and comparative politics and is a director of the constitution unit. I hope that I will be able to welcome them—remotely—to the committee. I can see Dr Ruth Fox. Good morning, Dr Fox.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

I think that you ended your response on a very useful note, Dr Williamson. We should not artificially create barriers in the inevitable—or certainly enthusiastic—move to digital and end up excluding other groups in that way.

My final question was going to be about the advantages of virtual proceedings, but, after listening to the evidence from both our panels, I want to change that slightly and ask whether we should be afraid of virtual change or whether we should be brave enough to take risks. Indeed, that is partly why this Parliament was originally founded. By being this close to the people of Scotland and our constituents and by making them such an important part of it, we find ways of bringing them on. Should we be scared of this change or should we embrace it? We might make mistakes, but is the end goal more advantageous?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

It is interesting that you raise the question of interventions, given that much work has been done in the Scottish Parliament to allow the hybrid system to take them. I see Edward Mountain shaking his head at that, but hopefully we will be able to investigate that issue between now and the summer recess.

Perhaps I can pick up Dr Fox’s point and press Professor Russell on it. Where should responsibility for developing this communication rest? Should it rest, for example, with the political parties? Taking the example—I was going to call it a “simple example”—of a hybrid facility, should responsibility for deciding who can use it rest with the chamber, by which I mean the Presiding Officer, or should it be facilitated by the political parties? Is anybody disadvantaged or, indeed, advantaged by hybrid proceedings or the opportunity to make a hybrid contribution?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Collette Stevenson has a follow-up question.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

We lost you for a short moment in the middle of your remarks, Dr Fox. I think that you are saying that it is very important that the data is collected and analysed but that we should choose what data points we want to reflect the information that we need. Would that be fair?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Thank you, Dr Williamson. I will do the “sensitive convener” thing by reassuring you that we are taking substantial amounts of evidence both from other legislatures and from other people who have expertise in the Scottish Parliament. I think that the committee and every MSP recognise that the privilege of the Scottish Parliament is measured not by the fact that it is not Westminster but by the fact that it is the Parliament of the people of Scotland, which is why we are here.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

That is very helpful, Dr Williamson. I will pass over to Edward Mountain.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Thank you, Dr Childs. Dr Williamson, can I add to Edward Mountain’s question about where the strains are, outwith the chamber? Is there also a need for MSPs to learn different skills in order to obtain information from the Government? Will technology make that easier?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. I am slightly conscious of time. Would it be all right if I passed over to Edward Mountain, Mr Doris? Your question was pretty well covered.