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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Again, on the timings of the inquiries, you tended to have them in two sessions, in the daytime and in the evening, which is sensible, but again, the day of the week that they were held was inconvenient for a number of people. It is easy to find reasons why something is not working, but from looking at the way in which the inquiries are conducted and the expectations on individuals who spoke at the inquiries that I was aware of, I know that they were not professional witnesses and they were not sure what to expect. The good thing was that, at the end of it, a lot of them were amazed at how nice the experience had been and how it was not adversarial.

However, there is a perception about the word “inquiry” across Scotland that is perhaps not the most positive, and people were extremely concerned about interacting with an inquiry. Again, I wonder whether the system that you described that you would like to move to would answer the challenges that came out of some inquiries and the subsequent inquiries that had to happen before they become challenges.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely. That is the document that we are looking at. I absolutely accept that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Would you welcome that? Would you like to consider that?

A consultation is going on, so, to be fair, perhaps that question is best left until after the consultation is finished.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

You are presented with a jigsaw without a reference picture; I fully appreciate that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Yes—I see the sense in it now.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Will those lessons learned be a public document?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Excellent. My next question is a mischievous one: is it the map or the description that is the final arbiter of the new constituencies and regions? Which is the governing part—your maps or the written descriptions in your paper that sit with the Government?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

There is an open invite to you for the right moment.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

It would go further than that, in the sense that there would be parity up to the trigger of the event that would lead to a recall petition. Parity commences when a member takes the oath. There would be parity up to the point at which a member is shown—if proved through the process and after appeals—to be unfit to hold the office. Is the Scottish Government comfortable with that being the edge of parity and that the recall process could reflect the different ways that people come here before taking the oath?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Does the Scottish Government not having a view also extend—we are getting to the unknown unknowns—to views or opinions in our stage 1 report if we suggest changes? Is the Government in any way concerned that there might be different journeys for different MSPs after a recall has been triggered?