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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

Other stakeholders need to play their part.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

Can you clarify something? You talked about warranted officers. Are they people who are basically on the front line—out in the street?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

Okay. I have one more quick question, which goes back to training. It is about the number of courses and how much focus there is on training. We heard from the first panel about a lack of training on human resources issues—that people were not always trained to the right standard. The SPF said that 3,500 officers were not safety trained. Does that number refer to warranted officers, who should be out on the streets?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

We have the lowest police numbers since 2007, and there are reports that 945 officers are eligible to retire before next summer. What are your views on current staffing levels? Are we doing enough to deal with people who are on modified duties? Is the situation sustainable? If you have one person on modified duties and then somebody else comes in with the same issues, you could end up with a whole police force on modified duties, which would mean that officers were not able to do front-line duties.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

We have heard about the many benefits of body-worn video cameras, not least the change in behaviour of the public, which it is hoped will lead to a reduction in assaults on officers. Will you advise the committee of the reasons for the further delay on issuing those to officers?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

You said that you would issue 17,000 officers with body-warn video cameras, but we know that, at the moment, police numbers are at their lowest level since 2007. Unfortunately, I do not think that you have 17,000 officers to give them to. What are your views on the current staffing levels and the impact of that on police officers’ mental health? What staffing levels do you think would be sufficient?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

Did you say that we should have 16,600 officers?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

That is a budgeted establishment. Is that the same as required levels? Do you think that you need more officers?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

I will come back to staffing levels. We already know that policing levels are at their lowest since 2007. We heard from witnesses on the previous panel about the challenges that they currently face. We heard from DCC Alan Speirs that staffing levels are budgeted at 16,600 officers, which is Police Scotland’s target. What levels do you see as being sufficient, and do you have any concerns about the upcoming budget?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Sharon Dowey

Good morning and thanks for coming. My first question is a query on the budgets. The FBU submission says that the capital budget is increasing by £10.3 million and that the real-term revenue increase is £9.1 million after deducting £4.4 million for the previous year’s settlement. The SFRS submission says that the revenue has a cash uplift of £9.5 million after deducting £4.1 million for the previous year’s pay settlement. There are slight differences in the figures, but the SFRS submission says that you are still faced with making further savings of approximately £4 million in 2024-25 to offset pressures from staff pay awards and non-pay inflation. Can you clarify that there was not an actual real-terms increase and that you still had to make cuts?