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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Sharon Dowey

I have specific questions on HMP Kilmarnock, which Teresa Medhurst mentioned in her opening remarks. It came back under SPS control on 17 March this year. What was the budgetary impact of that move? Will there be any further impacts going forward and, if there are, do you expect those to be covered by the Scottish Government?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Sharon Dowey

You put in for £3.1 million of increased costs. Is that in staffing alone?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Sharon Dowey

You mentioned that it is starting to be rolled out in other places, too. Will you tell us more about the plans for rolling out the pilot in courts across the country? Is it likely that it will ultimately lead to resource savings?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. I will continue my colleague Ben Macpherson’s line of questioning. You might have already answered some of these questions, but, given that you have just referred to the criticality and importance of the summary case management pilot, I will ask the question again in case you can provide extra information.

The recent evaluation noted that the pilot led to an increase in the early resolution of cases, along with a range of associated benefits. Can you tell me more about the main benefits of the approach that was taken in the pilot, not only for your organisation but for others?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

The committee always hears the figures for full-time-equivalent police officers, so we know how many we have in comparison to previous years. Do you have any figures to share with the committee about the number of civilian staff? I have never seen those.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

I am assuming that, when the legislation came in, there was a budgetary cost. You have said that eight times more testing will be required, but was there ever any increase in the budget when it was realised that the problem was much more prevalent than we had thought?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

I have a quick question about forensic services—and this time, it is your submission that I am reading from. It says:

“the prevalence of drug driving in Scotland is a significant concern for policing and has far exceeded predictions when the legislation was introduced.”

I imagine that that means that costs have been much more than was thought, which ties in with Liam Kerr’s question to the previous panel whether, in legislation, we are budgeting properly for the actual costs when things go live. Can you tell us a bit more about demand in that respect?

Your submission also mentions

“the impact on the demand for drug driving toxicology services.”

Are you finding it easy to recruit to those positions, or is there a skills gap?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

It is just that I am looking at the rolling replacement programme, and I note that it covers a lot of safety things such as body armour, firearms and supporting Taser capability as well as forensic services replacement. There are a lot of things in it.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

That would be interesting. You mentioned police officers doing jobs that civilians could do. Civilians used to do those jobs, but we have put police into those roles as things have changed, so it would be interesting to see the fluctuation in civilian staff.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Sharon Dowey

Following the same line of questioning, Chief Constable Farrell’s opening statement referred to fluctuations in staff numbers through recruitment and leavers. Can you tell us the current predictions for police officers and police staff numbers in the coming year? What number are you recruiting towards?