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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Thank you. That matter has been raised before—getting out the money as quickly as possible has caused issues in relation to showing where the money has ended up. It might have been allocated to a department for one thing but then used for something else, because of the need for urgent action.

I go to my second question. Is the Auditor General aware of any plans by the Scottish Government to present a comprehensive report on changes to budgets and final expenditure as a result of the pandemic? If not, would such a report be helpful, and when could it be expected?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Your report sets out the progress that has been made in recruitment to and staffing of the programme management office. Are you content with that progress? Earlier, Joanne Brown mentioned the success in delivering a number of savings, so that work seems to have been a success.

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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Bòrd na Gàidhlig”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

The 2018-19 section 22 report highlighted issues with

“a lack of clarity over the respective roles and responsibilities of the”

leadership

“team, committees, the Scottish Government’s sponsor team and the board”,

and with

“board members”

being

“too involved in operational matters.”

That sounds a bit familiar, given another report that we have read. What evidence have you seen that the updated framework document has addressed that lack of clarity?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Bòrd na Gàidhlig”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Colin Beattie asked when recruitment for the new board would take place, and he mentioned that five of the current board members were on the board at the time of the previous audit. How long have those board members been in position? Were you aware of how long they had been in position prior to the audit in 2018-19?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Bòrd na Gàidhlig”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Further to that, depending on when the board members were appointed, why had those issues not been raised earlier in a previous audit? There were quite a lot of issues in the 2018-19 audit, so why had they not been raised before? I wonder whether there were quite a lot of new members on the board, and whether that was why the issues had not been highlighted previously.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Auditor General, your report provides welcome information on the progress that NHS Highland has made in tackling its reliance on locum and agency staff, which was raised in previous section 22 reports. The board has filled 21 hard-to-fill consultant positions and, in October 2022, it took the management of locums back in house to control spending and rates. Is that sufficient or is there more work to be done in that area?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Have processes been put in place to encourage people to take up the positions, or has the pandemic had a bit of an effect, with people being kept in positions as a result of not being able to move about because of lockdowns or restrictions?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

Is it too early to work out whether there is best practice that could be passed on to other health boards that have the same issues?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

The work on the PMO certainly seems to have been a success. The Audit Scotland report says:

“a substantive PMO director is now in place with short-term mentoring support being provided by the previous appointee.”

Do you have any concerns about the previous appointee leaving? Will you continue to monitor progress once they have left?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Bòrd na Gàidhlig”

Meeting date: 13 January 2022

Sharon Dowey

The committee notes that although the Scottish Government sponsor division is not required to attend board meetings, it receives an invitation. Going by what I read in the report, it would seem that, although the division received an invitation to the meetings and received the minutes from them, it did not read those minutes.

Based on the serious issues that were identified two years ago, would there be merit in the sponsor division attending at least some, if not all, of the meetings in order to demonstrate its commitment to supporting the board and to maintain the pace of change?