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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Social care briefing”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Sharon Dowey

Service users and carers do not always have a say in or choice about what support works best for them. Self-directed support was designed to give people choice and control over their care, including personalised options for carers to take short breaks from caring. SDS has not yet been fully implemented. People using social care support have described the hurdles that they encounter in accessing services and support as a battle, difficult, overcomplicated and bureaucratic. The pandemic has highlighted the precarious situation of many vulnerable people who rely on social care or support, and it had a negative impact on people who require support. The Scottish Human Rights Commission has expressed deep concern about the level of social care support that is likely to be available in future to people whose packages were reduced or withdrawn during the pandemic. How is the Scottish Government involving service users and carers in reforming social care services?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Sharon Dowey

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning, Mr Boyle. Your team has provided a report that, in your words, shows “a multitude of failings”. It is a comprehensive report, even with the lack of available documentary evidence, and has raised an awful lot of concerns and a lot more questions. Once again, the issue of transparency in the Scottish Government has been raised.

The report makes it clear that the project has been riddled with problems and delays over six years. The vessels are four years late and it now looks like they will be five years late. Currently, the cost is two and a half times the original budget. Worryingly, paragraph 105 states:

“The Scottish Government is committed to paying the additional vessel costs, regardless of the final price.”

All of that is at taxpayers’ expense and, seemingly, with no accountability from ministers.

Paragraph 141 states:

“Because engines and equipment were purchased several years in advance, warranties have expired, and any repairs required before vessel 801 enters service could be expensive and time-consuming.”

We now know that there will be delays due to cabling being too short for the vessels and, to add another layer to the saga, once the vessels eventually come into service, there is now talk that they are 40m too long for the harbours that they will serve and that the masters of the boats who have been practising using simulators have been unable to dock them safely.

It seems that the story will continue, the costs will continue to rise and there might well be further delays. That is before we start talking about flawed decision-making processes, a lack of documentary evidence and the Scottish Government ignoring alarm bells that have gone off repeatedly. Therefore, it is understandable that there is a lot of interest in the report.

Exhibit 1 shows that, in August 2015, ministers announced Ferguson Marine Engineering Ltd—FMEL—as the preferred bidder. Will you tell me more about the decision making on that? I believe that there were seven bids from six companies. Who took the decision to award the contract to FMEL, taking into account the fact that the report says that FMEL’s bid was the most expensive?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Sharon Dowey

In September, CMAL advised Transport Scotland of the risks and stated its preference to start the procurement process again. The report states:

“Transport Scotland fully appraised Scottish ministers of the significant financial and procurement risks”.

In October, Transport Scotland advised CMAL that Scottish ministers were aware of the risk and were content for CMAL to award the contract to FMEL. Is there any documentation to show that, and to explain the reasons why the contract still went ahead?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

I am sorry, but did you say that there are two groups? You said that one met for the first time in March—which I take to be March 2022—and another group is due to meet for the first time in June 2022. Are there two different groups considering the matter?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. Audit Scotland’s 2019 report “Enabling digital government” noted that the governance and management structures for overseeing the 2017 digital strategy were “confusing” and that the roles and remits should be kept under review and “clearly articulated”. Can you tell us about the governance and management structures for overseeing the delivery of the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities digital strategy that was published in March 2021?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

One of the most concerning lines that stuck out in your report is:

“Most drug-related deaths are in people aged 35-54, but this is increasing across all age groups, particularly in people aged 25-34.”

Jillian Matthew referred to that earlier. It is a focus of all parties that increased funding gives vastly improved outcomes. We noted that you recommend a number of actions that the Scottish Government needs to take, as you set out in paragraph 31,

“To increase transparency and demonstrate value for money”

in the

“funding for drug and alcohol services”.

Has the Scottish Government accepted that that work needs to be progressed? If so, has it set any interim targets for undertaking it?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

So you are happy that you are taking on board all the comments from the 2019 report.

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. This is another question on governance. I refer to paragraphs 28 and 29 of your report. The Scottish Government’s consultation on a new national care service shows that a majority of respondents agree that ADPs should be integrated into community health and social care boards. What is your assessment of the cost of doing that, and would that improve lines of accountability?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 24 March 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning, everybody. The Auditor General’s report outlines that

“The auditor issued a disclaimer on the audit opinion on Scottish Canals’ financial statements for 2020/21”

because

“insufficient audit evidence was available to conclude on the overall valuation of Scottish Canals’ ... infrastructure and inland waterways”.

That was largely because Scottish Canals did not obtain an appropriate valuation, using depreciated replacement cost, for about £51 million of specialist operational assets that had been capitalised between 2012 and 2021. We have touched on some of those issues. Why did Scottish Canals not identify the need to undertake a DRC valuation of its specialist operational assets as part of preparing its 2020-21 accounts?