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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost Effectiveness)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Craig Hoy

You have mentioned the impact on operational policing. All of us around the table understand the huge pressure that the police are under. You face the issue of gangland warfare and everything else at the moment, so I fully recognise that pressure. In relation to the points about public inquiries that you have been raising with the committee, have you specifically raised the impact on the operational capabilities of the police with ministers in the past?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Craig Hoy

They could be one-handed economists.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Craig Hoy

I accept that there is probably a similarity with the rest of the UK, but am I right in thinking that there is not a similarity with other Western economies that are the same size as ours?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Economic and Fiscal Forecasts)

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Craig Hoy

I am looking at the state of the Scottish Government’s budget this year and going forward. We are seeing quite big policy changes at the UK Government level that will have a material effect on the Scottish budget. For example, we are seeing a potential reversal of the winter fuel payment, which will give the Scottish Government more money, and possibly the scaling back of other welfare reforms at the UK level. The consequence of that could be further cuts at the UK level to health, education or areas in which we get Barnett consequential funding. How difficult will that make it for the Scottish Government, which, by common consensus, seems to be too last-minute in the way in which it approaches its budgetary considerations, to forecast for the next 24 to 36 months?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

I go back to the role of the legal sector in relation to cost control, mission creep and so on. In his submission to us, Roger Mullin says:

“The unintended consequence of this is that individuals and legal firms, paid on the basis of their time involved in an inquiry, have no incentive to be as efficient as possible and indeed will get rewarded from the public purse by maximising their time involved.”

Based on your experience, Lord Hardie, is there a risk that, given that the whole mechanism has been built up and people are paid on a daily basis, there is some incentive for things to slide?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning. The document makes reference to the savings that carers currently provide to Scotland. The estimate that the Scottish Government has come up with is £13.9 billion per year, which totals £14.3 billion when healthcare costs are taken into account. Where does that figure come from and what confidence do you have that that is the net saving at the moment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

As per the earlier remarks. To go back to Mr Marra’s point, given that the scope of the bill has been reduced and the national care service initiative has been set to one side, why are we still looking at a run rate of more than £1 million a month?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

With due respect, minister, the work on understanding was done by the Feeley review, with the Government then introducing a bill, so the money has not been spent on developing greater understanding. It has been spent on the pathway towards the creation of a national care service that you are no longer pursuing, so you could argue that a large chunk of that £30 million is taxpayers’ money down the drain.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

It almost sounds as though you are making the case that a national care service is not required, if all those things could have been done by simply reprofiling existing workstreams. Surely the huge monolithic national care service is not actually necessary, minister.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Craig Hoy

For clarity, will the existing body be removed completely? No sponsoring element in the Scottish Government will remain, so there will be no duplication.