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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Is there a fear that, much in the same way as happens with rejected referrals in child and adolescent mental health services, the data that we have, even if it is accurate and was properly captured, does not necessarily represent the true scale of the problem, because people are falling out of the system and we no longer have any further data for them? Is that a legitimate concern?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

One of the other key innovations and developments was the creation of the Scottish Drugs Death Taskforce. The original chair and deputy chair resigned citing serious concerns that the pace at which the task force was being asked to operate risked the implementation of sustainable change. In effect, they said that speed did not equate to effectiveness. Do you share concerns that, after a period of inactivity, we might mistake activity for progress?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Ms Matthew slightly pre-empted me in relation to the considerable delays in the implementation of the drug and alcohol information system—DAISy—and that database. There are still considerable data gaps in the system. Will you elaborate on the work that is under way to address those gaps? What timescale are we operating to in order to ensure that we get the important information into the system?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

The final area that I want to ask about is financial controls and prioritisation of spend. Audit Scotland’s “Enabling digital government” report highlighted that there is no complete picture of the number and cost of digital projects across the public sector. In response to our predecessor committee in March 2021, the Scottish Government said that it was about to implement a new spending controls process. Could you bring us up to date on that and tell us where the Government’s thinking is in relation to IT prioritisation and control of spend?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Was that quite a long way of saying that the Government has discounted that recommendation?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

I have a final question on a specific project. Earlier, you mentioned the Covid status app as an example of agility in the Government’s IT and, I assume, procurement processes. I just want to interrogate the dynamic of how the spending control process would work in practice. The initial estimate for that project was something in the region of £600,000, but my understanding from recent media coverage is that the cost ended up at £7 million. How would the spending control process ensure that such a project worked? I am not sure that that level of spend even counts as a major ICT project, but I want to understand how such a project evolves and what spending control mechanisms are in place.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 24 March 2022

Craig Hoy

The Auditor General’s report explains that, in 2012, the network was transferred to Scottish Canals as a

“heritage asset, with no value attributed to it in the financial statements.”

It goes on to state that

“the canal network has never been valued in its entirety or disclosed in Scottish Canals’ financial statements since”

that transfer took place. Why has no value ever been attributed to the canal network? Did someone drop the ball at the beginning of the process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 24 March 2022

Craig Hoy

It is obviously quite a technical accounting issue. For people watching the committee, could you explain the impact of the present situation on the day-to-day operation of the organisation and on the integrity of the financial statements?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Craig Hoy

As a result of the SBRC review, there was quite high awareness of and training in cybersecurity—95 per cent of staff underwent cybersecurity training in 2020. Since the attack, how have you approached the issue in order to raise awareness and develop skills among staff in relation to emerging and future risks to cybersecurity?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Craig Hoy

I will put this question to both David Pirie and Helen Nisbet for SEPA’s and the Scottish Government’s perspectives. Earlier, Helen described the situation as a game of cat and mouse, and cybersecurity is getting increasingly sophisticated. What impact is that having on workforce planning to ensure that public bodies—SEPA and the wider public sector—have the skills that they need to make sure that they can not only recover from this attack, in the case of SEPA, but safeguard against future attacks?

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