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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 2 November 2026
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Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Yes.

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Okay. Thank you very much indeed.

11:51

Meeting continued in private until 12:12.

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

[Inaudible.]—towards the devolved civil service, and you are correct that that has grown by 1 per cent over that period. The full-time equivalent figures are no better. You have been in business, so you know that the low-hanging fruit is the easiest to cut. In the first year of a five-year reduction in civil service head count, should not you have made more progress? Instead, there has been an increase of 1 per cent.

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Is that achievable?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

That is helpful, but, by the end of the decade, the Scottish Government will be spending close to £10 billion a year on social security. That is a political choice, which we have discussed in the past, but it has consequences for taxpayers and for other public services. How will the Government pay for it, given that you have just identified that there is a shortfall in relation to Barnett consequentials, even if it has remained stable?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Before I bring in Thomas Kerr, I note that, in the last session of Parliament, the Government could not get a national care service over the line. In effect, it fell apart twice. In the course of this session, you are proposing the wholesale reform of quangos; the reorganisation of local government; the reorganisation of health boards and a significant reduction in their number; and the potential transfer of the lead function for social care from councils, which opposed the idea last time round, to health boards. Yet, you are telling us that you do not have the dots on the maps and the maps have not been drawn. Are you not woefully biting off more than you can chew?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Before we close on social security and move to housing, I have two final questions while we have you and Mr Wallace here, cabinet secretary, although we will have Mr McKee with us after this session. Social Security Scotland’s head count has grown significantly in recent years, and every part of the Government will be asked to do its bit to make efficiency savings. What should we expect from Social Security Scotland with regard to administration efficiency and head count over the course of this parliamentary session?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

I was not doing that at all, cabinet secretary. I was saying that benefits are meant to reflect additional costs, and the Harris review suggested that there was no Scotland-specific baseline data for additional costs. What work has the Scottish Government done, or what work will it do, to ensure that those who claim this benefit receive a financial amount that is commensurate to the costs of the disability that they have, whether that is neurodivergence or a physical disability?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Before I bring in Mr Bonnar, I have a yes or no question for the cabinet secretary. Is the housing emergency in Scotland getting worse?

Social Justice, Housing and Local Government Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 16 September 2026

Craig Hoy

Thank you, cabinet secretary. This is obviously your first appearance before the committee and our first opportunity to test your priorities. You mentioned the word “outcomes”, so what three outcomes should the committee judge your performance and that of your department by over the next 12 months?