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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Reluctantly.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Was that quite a long way of saying that the Government has discounted that recommendation?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

The final area that I want to ask about is financial controls and prioritisation of spend. Audit Scotland’s “Enabling digital government” report highlighted that there is no complete picture of the number and cost of digital projects across the public sector. In response to our predecessor committee in March 2021, the Scottish Government said that it was about to implement a new spending controls process. Could you bring us up to date on that and tell us where the Government’s thinking is in relation to IT prioritisation and control of spend?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Audit Scotland’s 2019 update questioned the appropriateness of a 21-day waiting time target for drug and alcohol treatment. In relation to drug deaths, you also raised serious concerns about people who do not attend treatment—those who, in effect, fall out of the system and have no contact whatever with treatment services. Are you aware of any work being undertaken by the Scottish Government to address those two critical issues?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Is there a fear that, much in the same way as happens with rejected referrals in child and adolescent mental health services, the data that we have, even if it is accurate and was properly captured, does not necessarily represent the true scale of the problem, because people are falling out of the system and we no longer have any further data for them? Is that a legitimate concern?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Good morning. Mr Huggins, the 2019 report suggested that a single individual be made responsible for overseeing Government ICT projects. The Government took that recommendation on board and said that it would consider it. You are the director of digital, so is that your role? If it is not, can you give us an indication of where the Government’s present thinking is in relation to the creation of that role?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

I have a final question on a specific project. Earlier, you mentioned the Covid status app as an example of agility in the Government’s IT and, I assume, procurement processes. I just want to interrogate the dynamic of how the spending control process would work in practice. The initial estimate for that project was something in the region of £600,000, but my understanding from recent media coverage is that the cost ended up at £7 million. How would the spending control process ensure that such a project worked? I am not sure that that level of spend even counts as a major ICT project, but I want to understand how such a project evolves and what spending control mechanisms are in place.

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

One of the other key innovations and developments was the creation of the Scottish Drugs Death Taskforce. The original chair and deputy chair resigned citing serious concerns that the pace at which the task force was being asked to operate risked the implementation of sustainable change. In effect, they said that speed did not equate to effectiveness. Do you share concerns that, after a period of inactivity, we might mistake activity for progress?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Ms Matthew slightly pre-empted me in relation to the considerable delays in the implementation of the drug and alcohol information system—DAISy—and that database. There are still considerable data gaps in the system. Will you elaborate on the work that is under way to address those gaps? What timescale are we operating to in order to ensure that we get the important information into the system?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Craig Hoy

Mr Huggins, I think that Mr Coffey referred to the major projects that are currently under way, which are critical to the delivery of the digital strategy. At this point in time, are there any that are giving you further sleepless nights?