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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Okay, First Minister. I—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Okay. I had tidied it up a bit. Previously, I had used the word “fishy”. When I put that to CMAL, it said that it would not comment on that word but that it was “not normal”. Let us therefore use the term “not normal”.

The contract was then awarded to a well-known supporter of independence—a close friend of your party. There was the lack of the standard builders refund guarantee; key tender documents were resubmitted after the submission deadline; there was the presence of this cheat sheet that the BBC identified—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

I accept that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Yes. It says that minutes should be taken and meetings should be recorded.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Okay. That does not provide me with a huge amount of assurance, to be honest. Regardless of what Mr McColl was ultimately asking for, either he did not get it or it did not work, because the yard fell into administration—with some rancour, I think.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Good morning, First Minister. Thank you for coming.

Before we get into the detail, I seek some reassurance about the nature of the evidence that you will give today. Can we be sure that you intend to answer transparently and truthfully, that your memory will not fail you and that you will not need to come back under cover of darkness to correct the Official Report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

It was a guide as to how to meet the submission criteria. It was referred to in the BBC documentary.

Obviously, there was then the decision that was taken to proceed against the advice of CMAL, and then there was then the very risky and uncosted nationalisation. Now we have two ferries that are half a decade overdue and £150 million over budget. All the while, as you identified in your opening, our island communities are paying the price. This is a monumental scandal, First Minister, and it happened on your watch. What do you say to islanders today? It surely has to be more than “Sorry”.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Let us go back to the very beginning. When were you first made aware that Jim McColl was interested in buying the Ferguson’s yard?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

When you became First Minister, how were your relations with Mr McColl?

Public Audit Committee

“Tackling child poverty”

Meeting date: 6 October 2022

Craig Hoy

Good morning, Mr Boyle. I want to look at achieving the child poverty targets. To give a snapshot of where we are, there are, obviously, some pretty severe and acute cost of living issues coming towards us. At this point in time, should we be more concerned about the inability to meet the absolute target or the relative target, or are both equally important in public policy terms and objectives?